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Miller debated polar bears with Palin

Some Democrats in Congress might not know of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, but Rep. Brad Miller of Raleigh does.

Miller last year accused the state of Alaska of using an opinion essay written in part by known “climate-doubt” scientists to back its opposition to listing the polar bear as a threatened species, reports Barb Barrett.

Miller is chairman of the oversight panel on the House Science and Technology Committee. He accused ExxonMobil in October of funding un-scientific research because it had given money to one of the essay’s authors, an astrophysicist, for some work in the polar region.

The essay was published in the journal Ecological Complexity and, Miller wrote, cited six times in Alaska’s filing against listing the polar bear.

The debate over the polar bear was a major issue in Alaska last year, with the state opposing its inclusion under the Endangered Species Act. The state argued there was not enough science to determine that the polar bear could become endangered.

“If the Governor of Alaska … cannot tell whether this paper is science or an elaborate editorial, what is a less-sophisticated audience to think?” Miller asked in his letter to ExxonMobil on the issue.

Palin fired back, telling Miller in her own letter that it was he who didn’t understand the issues.

"I fear your comments may squash scientific debate,” she wrote. She also defended the funding of scientific studies by oil companies, writing that it would be fiscally difficult to fund all science with government money.

In its own rebuttal to Miller, ExxonMobil said it understood the essay to have been peer-reviewed.

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Re: Miller debated polar bears with Palin

Thank you Mr. Miller for standing up for science over blind belief. And thank you for your service to district. Good work.

And Mrs. Palin, shame on you for pandering to false beliefs in service of your own political and financial ends.

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http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/arctic_minimum.html

"In September 2007, the Northwest Passage was ice-free for the first time since satellite records began. The passage is a direct route from Europe to Asia for ships traveling through the Arctic. The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) instrument on NASA's Terra satellite captured this image of the ice-free Northwest Passage on Sept. 15, 2007."

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/greenland_recordhigh.html

"A new NASA-supported study reports that 2007 marked an overall rise in the melting trend over the entire Greenland ice sheet and, remarkably, melting in high-altitude areas was greater than ever at 150 percent more than average. In fact, the total area of snow that has melted this year over Greenland could match the surface size of the U.S. more than twice."

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/antarctic_snowmelt.html

"On the world's coldest continent of Antarctica, the landscape is so vast and varied that only satellites can fully capture the extent of changes in the snow melting across its valleys, mountains, glaciers and ice shelves. In a new NASA study, researchers using 20 years of data from space-based sensors have confirmed that Antarctic snow is melting farther inland from the coast over time, melting at higher altitudes than ever and increasingly melting on Antarctica's largest ice shelf."

Re: Miller debated polar bears with Palin

I'm just flabbergasted at these people. Science has no meaning to them. It's all just a political debate. They want religious creation beliefs taught alongside scientific theories and given equal weight. As if creationism has been through the same scientific method as evolution. Or as if it ever could be. These people have no idea what science is. And it's very very scary that they are in charge of the government. For McCain to pick her as VP shows just how bad his judgment really is.

I pray for the day when we again have public officials that actually knows what science is and that don't cynically try to pull science into the realm of political debate.

Wake up and smell the tundra

Arctic becomes an island as ice melts

Four weeks ago tourists had to be evacuated from a park on Baffin Island because of flooding caused by melting glaciers, and polar bears have been spotted off Alaska trying to swim hundreds of miles to the retreating ice cap.

SCHARRISON - WAKE UP

First of all, please provide evidence that the world of the polar bears is melting. I would like to see the evidence...Al Gore and Global Warming is nothing short of a money making scam for himself.

Re: Miller debated polar bears with Palin

Paul, if you're actually paying somebody to write that nonsense for you, they should be fired right now.

Just as we send people to Raleigh to make decisions that affect the whole state, we send people to Washington to make decisions that affect not only our country, but the rest of the world, as well.

The polar bear is our canary in the coal mine, if a metaphor will help you understand. Among other things, placing them on the Endangered Species list provides more monitoring of their behavior, which is crucial right now. And by the way: they're swimming off the coast of Alaska right now not because they enjoy it or need the exercise, but because their world is melting.

Now, you can walk right past that cage and ignore the canary in distress, but turning around and yelling at the other miners to do the same makes you not only foolish, it makes you dangerous, as well.

Re: Miller debated polar bears with Palin

Brad Miller-D 13th is only concerned with maintaining left wing policies that do more to protect Polar Bears than helping the citizens in his district. We all want clean air, clean water, and safe food. Under our ever increaing tax burden we cannot afford either of the three.
Progress Energy is needing to raise rates in Florida 31%. Two of the reasons listed are higher fuel costs and costs of preventing emissions from escaping power plants. Alternative energy sources will cost us even more. So before you decide to vote in November remember what do you want. Drilling for domestic sources to lower prices here along with alternatives or just waiting on alternatives that are exponentially even more expensive right now. We need a balanced plan that those on the left want to squelch. They attack you with smear techniques that would make George Soros proud.
Locally all of our taxes have gone up because we have conserved, just wait and see what a larger majority of Democrats will do in Washington. One bet is that our taxes will go up past 50% of our income.

Paul Terrell III
http:terrellforhouse33.blogspot.com

Re: Miller debated polar bears with Palin

Make your mind up. On one thread you're criticizing Brad Miller for being informed about Alaska while on another you're criticizing Mel Watt for not being informed about Alaska.

Re: Miller debated polar bears with Palin

Miller does not one constructive thing for the people of his district, instead wasting his time and our's on polar bears in Alaska. I'm sure ingratiating himself before the whacked out wing nut Nancy Peolsi. Get to work on something that matters to the good people of North Carolina Miller.

Re: Miller debated polar bears with Palin

Whatever else we may learn about the untested, inexperienced Palin--for example, her ethical challenges now under bipartisan investigation in her home state--we already know that she would be an environmental disaster. She's one of the waning number of science-denying climate change "sceptics" who will grasp at any oil-industry funded fig leaf to cover up real research. She falsely claimed that her own state's wildlife officials found no evidence to support the bears' endangered listing, despite statements from those same scientists contradicting her claim. Why? Could it be because she was afraid that the endangered listing would interfere with construction of a pipeline for which she'd wheedled a half-billion dollar subsidy from state taxpayers? She opposed a state ballot measure which would have protected the state's salmon fisheries from metal mining pollution, because it could interfere with a proposed new gold mine. Big polluters in Alaska love Palin. When it comes to science and the environment, George W. Bush and Sarah Palin have a lot in common.

Re: Miller debated polar bears with Palin

How can Miller as a Democrat on the one hand care about and defend Polar Bears as endangered yet support and allow tens of millions of babies to be aborted each year during his congressional terms?

How the American people of the last 30 years can ever look back and down on the German people of WWII, I don't understand.

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