Deaf jurors debated


A bill that would have provided a procedure for judges to deal with deaf jurors led to a debate in the House over whether those who cannot hear should sit on a jury.

The bill would gurantee an interpreter for hearing-impaired jurors.

But some House members questioned whether a such a juror could properly appreciate the nuance of testimony.

"This is one example of taking political correctness too far," said Rep. Ronnie Sutton, a Pembroke Democrat. "We can't have quadriplegics running track, nor do we need to have deaf persons serving on juries." 

Rep. Rick Glazier, a Fayetteville Democrat, said hearing impaired jurors have already served in North Carolina trials. Several states have similar laws providing for interpreters in those cases, he said. The bill still allows lawyers or judges to reject a hearing impaired juror.

"A hearing impaired juror who has the capacity to particiapte fairly and impartially ought to be allowed," Glazier said.  

Reps. Ruth Samuelson, a Charlotte Republican and Deborah Ross, a Raleigh Democrat, pointed out that deaf people may pick up on subtleties that others miss because they are using different senses. And Ross, said, just because a person can hear doesn't mean would they would be a good juror.

"There may be plenty of people who can hear but don't listen," Ross said.

Opponents to the bill sought to send it to its death in a committee. Glazier successfully avoided that by having the bill delayed until next week. 

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Re: Deaf jurors debated

This comment by Mr. Sutton is unbelievable, unfair, discriminatory and not an inaccurate comparison. Is he saying that Deaf people should not be considered active citizens of this country?

The decision to run track is a personal choice or a hobby. However, if called, serving on a jury is a responsibility all citizens of this country as people of a free democracy. While not always fun, serving on a jury is a way of serving our country. True, quadriplegics can’t run, but Deaf people CAN do anything except hear!! We have Deaf doctors, lawyers, presidents, professionals, organizations, and publications (among other things). Why shouldn’t they be able to be a fellow peer? Would a jury of our peers really be so if we pick and choose who not to include in our society?

A Deaf person, given appropriately qualified and certified interpreters, will not miss anything that is ‘said’ in a court. They are still ‘hearing’ what is said, just through their eyes instead. The English word for water means the same thing as the Spanish word for water, the only difference being language it is conveyed in. We have no official language in this country so why can’t AMERICAN sign language be used in courts to give Deaf people equal access? What about the Americans with Disabilities Act? Doesn’t it require that services, such as interpreters, be made available for just such circumstances? Stop trying to weasel your way out of making all citizens equal. After all, it’s that what our country is based on?

Re: Deaf jurors debated

there's more

http://www.nad.org/blogs/lindanelson/north-carolina-legislators-oppose-deaf-jurors

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These reps have no idea of how much of an asset we are to the legal system and the community! Through the interpreters, not only we get verbal information, but we are capable of getting a lot of non verbal cues on our own. People with full hearing capabilities rely on their ears when they should rely on their sights. What happens if there are no sounds, what would you notice? The interpreters and deaf jurors are an enchantment to all in the court room, which is equality. Let's not go backward and remember we must not make mistakes for our future generations in our country. If we cannot achieve equality, American cannot maintain its greatness….

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I just hope that the newspaper made a misquote when they interviewed Rep. Ronnie Sutton. If they didn't, then it is an embarrasment to NC a Representative of NC would think the way he does. He has taken the progress of the last 50 years back into the dark ages again. He has completely ignored the Americans With Disabilities Act, the Civil Rights Acts and has trampled on the Rights of every disabled citizen in NC.

It's a crying shame that he is not taking into consideration some of his own people in his own district who may have gotten injuried while serving the United States of America in the Armed forces, may have lost all of their limbs due to roadside bombs, or may have lost their hearing defending our country being inside the tanks. When he said that, he has absolutely removed these citizens from consideration eventhough they have given far more than many citizens who serve on the jury. Our Declaration of Independence indicates "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certian unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." It makes me wonder if he sees us as non-equals?

With this in mind, I sincerely hope that Ronnie will reverse his thinking, and support this bill. He is absolutely rejecting the 23 million Americans who have disabilities because he thinks they do not have the ability to perform tasks on a jury. Hmmm.... Does this mean that people who are Deaf or Quads are exempt from any legal rammificaitons? Does this mean that since we are not seen as peers, then the rest of society cannot be our jurors? We are entitled to be judged by a jury of our peers.

I just hope that he was misquoted, but if he wasn't then he should have no business being a Representative of the People because he sure isn't representing all of us equally!

I will say I am pleased that he is in the minority,.

A concerned citizen

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Seems like the proposed law and debate are unnecessary. Doesn't federal ADA requirements trump state law in cases like this anyway?

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As a long-time registered Democrat and NC licensed sign language interpreter, I have to say I am truly embarrassed and can say this is the most IGNORANT comment I have EVER read about deaf people from a state legislator. I wonder how my deaf attorney friends will feel when they read these comments by Rep. Sutton??? I can't wait to send it to them!!!

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Ronnie Sutton obviously doesn't know anything about hearing loss or deafness or what it takes to be a good juror. I suggest he learn a little more before making such "caveman" comments that are down right wrong and very unprofessional. Deaf jurors would probably make better jurors than some I have seen sitting on the jury.

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"This is one example of taking political correctness too far".

Serving on a jury is part of being a good citizen, and all of us should have the opportunity to do that.

Opposition to this bill is one example of taking bigotry too far.

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Recently I was sent a notice to serve on jury duty in federal court, Since I lost my high frenquency hearing working for an airline. Due to that I opted out due to my age, since I could do that. However other than that I would have served since I am retired and could have spared someone one who was working