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Community College board approves admission for illegal immigrants

North Carolina’s State Board of Community Colleges cast a final vote Friday morning to admit illegal immigrants to the state’s 58 campuses but with key restrictions and the possibility that the issue still could stall in the legislature.

Illegal immigrants will have to pay out of state tuition, about $7,700 a year, and they can be removed from a class if it is full and a legal resident wants in.

The vote was the final step in approving a new rule to allow admission. The board voted to allow illegal immigrants into classes under the restrictions last September. Today’s vote confirmed that decision after a public hearing in December and written comments.

Lt. Gov. Walter Dalton, a member of the board, voted against the new policy today and in September.

The debate, however, may not be settled. The new rule now goes to the state Rules Review Commission. If the commission receives ten written objections asking for the legislature to review the rule, then it goes to the General Assembly. The legislature can pass a law blocking the rule. It would be up to Democratic leaders in the House and Senate whether to allow such a bill to come to a vote. If lawmakers take no action, the rule goes into effect.

Advocates of immigration reform applauded Monday’s vote by the board. Tony Asion, executive director of El Pueblo, said the vote was a “no brainer,” given that young people would be educated and at no cost to the state, since out of state tuition exceeds the community colleges’ costs. “We have no problem incarcerating somebody at a cost of $39,000 a year,” Asion said, “but we don’t want to educate them at no cost? That makes no sense to me.”

The requirement for out of state tuition, however, won’t last long, said William Gheen, president of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, which opposes admission for illegal immigrants. “This is a bad vote. It’s part of a much larger national agenda,” Gheen said. “There’s an agenda afoot here, and they intend to given (illegal immigrants) all the benefits of full American citizens.” He said proponents of admitting illegal immigrants waited until after Democrats won the election for governor in 2008 to push the issue.

In May 2008, the system became one of the first in the country to ban illegal immigrants entirely. At the time, N.C. Community College System President Scott Ralls announced the schools would adhere to a recommendation by the office of N.C. Attorney General Roy Cooper, citing federal laws, to stop enrolling undocumented students. The attorney general's office later reversed its opinion, but the board decided to halt any additional action until it could review its policy. The review, completed in April by the consulting firm JBL Associates, found that the colleges could profit from accepting illegal immigrants if they paid out-of-state tuition. 


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No Illegal Alien to Take the Seat of a Legal Citizen?

It sounds good, but how do you practically implement this?

You would have to set your Student Information System (Banner?) to flag all students as either legal or not-legal.  You would have to set up your class registration system so that illegal aliens who register for a course do not count toward the class "max size".  Most institutions have a system that stops class registration once a section is "filled".  If illegal aliens count toward max class size and they register for the class first, then course enrollment would be stopped and any legal citizen would be prevented from registering, in effect letting an illegal alien take the seat of a legal citizen.

What happens if an illegal alien registers for a course, and their registration "fills" the class?  They buy their books and attend at least one class.  Then just before "late" registration ends, a legal US Citizen registers for the course... in effect "bumping" an illegal alien from the course.  Do you imagine that an Administrator is going to ask the illegal alien student to leave the class?  Would the illegal alien have the right to sue the institution, even if the institution refunds the class registration fee?

*"Late" registration is registration for a class or classes that occurs after the first class session.  

Currently legal to admit illegal aliens to rest of the UNC Unive

This quote comes the the State Community College Board Press release...

"“Today, our State Board of Community Colleges took another step forward in aligning North Carolina’s higher education admissions policy related to undocumented immigrants,” said State Board Chair, Hilda Pinnix-Ragland. “We confirmed our commitment to a policy that would, like our state’s university system, admit graduates of U.S. high schools at an out-of-state tuition rate. But we also recognized the needs of our state’s citizens to have every educational opportunity available by adding the caveat that a North Carolina or U.S citizen could not be displaced by an undocumented immigrant.”

Contact Information to express opposition

Contact person at the Rules Review Commission is Joe DeLuca - His email is His main telephone is 919.431.3000. I have contacted him and he is sending a form to be submitted.

Find out who is on the board in YOUR community!

Call them out! Embarrass the hell outta them! These people are able to hide
away without accountability and they need to be illuminated for their evil work affecting their hometown community colleges!

Do you hear us Gordon Greenwood, and K.Ray Bailey of Asheville ??? Dispiccable.

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