Budget would protect K-3


House and Senate budget negotiators were finalizing the finer points of the state budget Monday.

The plan right now is to get the document read into the record before midnight so the House and Senate can take its first vote Tuesday. There is no bill to read yet, but lawmakers talked about the basic points.

In education, the current proposal would leave K-3 alone and increase class size in higher grades. Local school administrators would have to find further cuts. Officials would also have flexibility to move money around or tap stimulus funds to mitigate cuts.

"They are far better at determining what needs to be done than we," said Sen. Tony Rand, a Fayetteville Democrat and the chamber's majority leader.

The education cuts would have been far worse without some $990 million in proposed tax increases, said Sen. Linda Garrou, a key budget negotiator.

"Children in North Carolina are going to get a quality education," she said. "I can't tell you the number of teachers we would have lost if you did not have this additional revenue."

Rand said the budget would include some layoffs of state employees.

"There will be some but we've tried to minimize it," he said.

Update: The final budget agreement would not specifically raise class size in grades 4 through 12. Local school officials would have to find ways, including possible class size increases, to cut spending.

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Re: Budget would protect K-3

"Cut" 4-12? Cut what? We had so little money last year there are no field trips in high school, biology students can't do disections, we couldn't replace texrbooks that were falling apart, and our English as a Second Language teacher was a long term sub who didn't speak a second language. Hwere are we supposed to cut from? Class size? What do we do with 35 kids in a room designed for 28? Stack them up? Pray at least 5 kids are absent everyday?

Re: Budget would protect K-3

I ask you, would the great leaders of our state send their children and grand children to a school that is trying its best with the "budget" they have ste forth for education? My guess is no. Some of the children we teach need expierences that we will no longer be able to provide for then,like fieldtrips to the zoo, Old Winston-Salem, watching the ballet, visiting historic downtown areas. They want all children educated but they are taking away and forcing the educators to do with less but to do more. I think it is great for the k-3 teachers, but how many k-3 students drop out every year. Where we need the focus, attention, help is in the upper grades where the students. You can have the greatest teacher abd without the support that teacher needs can he/she reach everyone. They ask for high test scores, they ask for more focus, they ask for no child to be left behind, they ask for us to do it all yet they are not willing to get out of their secure offices and see what education is like in some places because they could not handle the truth. The truth is that when you cut education you are leaving every student behind.

Re: Budget would protect K-3

There is an old saying you get what you pay for. Conidering our NC House Representatives are paid around $13k a year, I think we are getting about what we pay for I am sorry to say. Maybe if they were paid more money, we might get a higher quality of citizens as Representatives as far as their being more educated, honest, innovative, etc., etc., etc.

Re: Budget would protect K-3

WHY does ANYONE in NC vote for democrackkks? THEY keep us ENSLAVED! DAMN them ALL!

Re: Budget would protect K-3

It was a typo.

Stimulus funds?

Quoting from above:

"Officials would also have flexibility to move money around or tap stimulus funds to mitigate cuts."

I'm not sure I understand this. Are we talking the local officials being able to tap stimulus funds? Who will approve tapping the stimulus funds? I would imagine that every local school official might feel that their needs were worthy of tapping the stimulus funds. I don't have any idea how much funding is available but local school officials could breeze through a sizeable sum in no time at all.

Tapping stimulus funds is another way of putting off making necessary cuts.

Re: Budget would protect K-3

Could be a typo

Re: Budget would protect K-3

Perhaps, but our expenditure per student in the classroom is 42nd, and we rate 48th in education. Certainly, there is some waste somewhere in education. Now, if we spend less than 42 other states in education, and there's no telling where we rate in transportation, and we're the 20th state in taxes, WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING? It doesn't take Forest Gump to realize it's being spent on pork, pork bellies, pork futures, pork and beans, pork hash, pork fries, (insert your favorite pork recipe here). And it's downright delicious! Call your congress man or woman today, and tell them you'll gladly support whatever pork project they've signed onto, and they've got your vote come next election.

Re: Budget would protect K-3

Rand needs to take a course in grammar. His quote talking about laying off state employees: "There will be some but we're tried to minimize it"?
And he is a Senate Leader?????????????

Re: Budget would protect K-3

We're not the 8th highest state. According to the Tax Foundation, our state-local tax burden places us 20th.

Re: Budget would protect K-3

Saving? Salvaging is more like it.

You'd get more bang for your buck saving used bandaids - because bandaids actually performed a function at one point in their existance.

Re: Budget would protect K-3

these people are INSANE!!! They need to be voted out asap. we are the 8th highest taxed state as it is, we'll soon be in the great company of CA, NY,NJ. VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!

Re: Budget would protect K-3

I insist they stop using the word "BUDGET" to describe what they are doing. These are supposed to be educated people and yet they act like zombies. A budget is something a responsible family prepares regarding their expenses versus their income so they will have the opportunity to live in their house with electricity and running water. What these morons are preparing is not a budget but rather a spending beyond their means program. I certainly hope they have updated resumes or maybe a family business to go to after the next election because I expect most will be on the street. Or am I giving too much credit to the voters of this great state?