Binker: Who's 'Fibber Kay'?


Mark Binker says he hasn't heard anyone call her "Fibber Kay."

In a new TV ad from U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole, a narrator says that "They call her 'Fibber Kay Hagan.'"

But the Greensboro News & Record reporter writes on his blog that nickname is new to him:

Who the heck are "they?" Now, I'm not going to say I've talked to all 9 million residents in North Carolina, but I get around. Until the ad aired, I never heard anyone use that moniker. (And yes, I've heard some people use some nicknames for Hagan, not that one though.)

Dome's never heard the nickname either, though whether some Dole supporters pick it up from here could make it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

At the same time, we have to say it's kind of an odd choice.

Obviously, Dole is avoiding calling Hagan a "liar" — which might come off as too harsh and kill the light-hearted tone that she's aiming for in the ad. But "fibber" is a word straight out of a sockhop and perhaps unintentionally reinforces the age subtext in this race.

The No. 2 link for the word on Google, after all, is a radio show that went off the air in 1959.

Update: The Dole campaign says they did not come up with the nickname. 

"We're not sure who coined it, but we hear people call Kay Hagan 'Fibber Kay' on the campaign trail and we hear it frequently," writes spokesman Hogan Gidley in an e-mail.

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Does anyone even still work here?

I'm glad the SPAM Council showed up.

Re: Binker: Who's 'Fibber Kay'?

Re: Binker: Who's 'Fibber Kay'?

Hagan has also lied about her true reasoning for not wanting offshore drilling in NC.

The real reason is that her and her family own oil wells in the Midwest and opening up America for drilling might impact their profits, that were much greater over the past two years since the DEMOCRATS in Congress did absolutely nothing until the Republicans began to gain traction on the issue.

This information is straight from the Dole website and you know what I have done the research and it all checks out...but of course the N&O would never run such a story for two reasons...they do not have enough personnel to check out the information or the are jumping on the liberal bandwagon with the rest of the media outlets...

HAGAN HYPOCRISY HITS . . . A GUSHER!!!!

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, August 7, 2008

Kay Hagan Rails Against Oil Companies While She and Her Husband Partly Own Multiple Oil and Gas Drilling Wells in Five States

Salisbury, NC – Kay Hagan and her labor union friends began running the third advertisement of the campaign today and to no one’s surprise, it is another negative attack on Elizabeth Dole. What is surprising is that, while Kay Hagan continues to campaign against the oil industry in speeches, press releases, direct mail pieces and her campaign ads, Mrs. Hagan has been raking in profits from partly owning oil and gas drilling wells in at least five states.

“Kay Hagan is a hypocrite of the highest order for attacking Senator Dole for being too close to oil interests when she herself is an oil baroness and is profiting from the very product she is condemning,” said Dole Campaign Communications Director Dan McLagan.” “It is no wonder that Hagan has no energy plan – she is profiting from the status quo. No additional drilling equals higher oil prices equals higher profits for Hagan personally,” McLagan said.

Hagan’s Oil Partnerships

According to Hagan’s own personal financial disclosure (excerpts attached as a PDF), her husband Chip is a partner in several oil and gas drilling companies that own wells in at least five states.

• Oil and gas wells in Stephens (sic) County, KS and Logan County, OK through Ace Midwest Partners 2004.
• Oil and gas wells in Bearer, OK (sic) through Ace Midwest Partners OK-6
• Oil and gas wells in Sullivan, IN through Psigen Sullivan
• Oil and gas wells in Garvin, OK through Jasmine Oil Wells
• Oil and gas wells in Newell, WV through Ergon Oil
• Oil and gas wells in Perry County, OH through Chrisjo Energy, Inc – Bearfield

“These are not stocks or mutual funds, they are physical oil and gas wells partly owned by the Hagans and involved in the discovery, extraction and sales of petroleum – petroleum which has become much more valuable as Hagan and her Washington, D.C. cronies fight tooth and nail to stop oil exploration which would reduce demand and prices for this product,” McLagan said.

Records are sketchy but it is entirely possible that one or more of these Hagan-owned drilling interests are actually members of the Independent Petroleum Association of America which Hagan herself has attacked as part of “big oil.”

Backgrounder:

I. Kay Hagan has been continually attacking Senator Dole as being in the pocket of big oil and she defines this pretty broadly to include independent petroleum producers and people who work for gas companies. Hagan’s campaign attacked Dole for taking money from the Independent Petroleum Association of America which represents small petroleum producers and service companies. Are Hagan’s oil drilling companies members of that Association?

II. Hagan is being backed by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (they have reserved $8 million in air time this fall to attack Dole and are currently running ads attacking us, they also have paid for her staff payroll in the past). The DSCC is running a national campaign linking GOP senators to oil interests. You can get the gist of that at http://boughtbybigoil.com/ DSCC, by the way, has accepted $458,000 from the oil companies.

DSCC financials showing oil contributions
DSCC financials showing covering of payroll for Hagan

III. A new TV ad went up today attacking Senator Dole for ties to oil companies. It was paid for by labor unions and is obviously an attempt to help Hagan. It can be found at:

.net/

Text: Announcer - “Chevron, 18.7 billion. BP, 20.8 billion. Exxon Mobil, 40.6 billion. Big oil companies are making billions at our expense. And where has Elizabeth Dole been? In Washington, taking over a quarter million in campaign cash from Big Oil and voting to give them billions more in tax breaks. Tell Elizabeth Dole we need lower fuel costs, not billions for big oil.”

IV. Kay Hagan’s husband is a part of a partnership that owns oil and/or gas wells in at least five states including:

• Oil and gas wells in Stephens (sic) County, KS and Logan County, OK through Ace Midwest Partners 2004 valued at between $15,001 and $50,000;
• Oil and gas wells in Bearer, OK (sic) through Ace Midwest Partners OK-6 valued at between $15,001 and $50,000;
• Oil and gas wells in Sullivan, IN through Psigen Sullivan Partners valued at between $15,001 and $50,000;
• Oil and gas wells in Garvin, OK through Jasmine Oil Wells valued at between $15,001 and $50,000;
• Oil and gas wells in Newell, WV through Ergon Oil Company valued at between $15,001 and $50,000;
• Oil and gas wells in Perry County, OH through Chrisjo Energy, Inc – Bearfield valued at between $15,001 and $50,000. (Kay Hagan, PFD, 2/29/08)

This does not include stocks and mutual funds – only direct ownership interest.

Hagan Financial Disclosure Forms showing ownership

I. Hagan Hypocrisy On Oil

Kay Hagan: “We need to end the Bush-Dole-Big Oil approach to energy policy that created our dependence on foreign oil.” (Kay Hagan For North Carolina, Press Release, 8/4/08)

“The DSCC recently launched a Web site called Bought by Big Oil that attacks Dole and other Republican senators for accepting contributions from oil companies.” (Ryan Beckwith, “DSCC To Begin Airing Ads Tomorrow,” The News & Observer’s “Under The Dome” Blog, projects.newsobserver.com, 8/1/08, Accessed 8/7/08)

II. What Hagan and DSCC define as big oil

“Dole Took $14,000 In Oil And Gas PAC Money At The End Of June Alone. In the final days of June, Elizabeth Dole took at least $14,000 from political action committees affiliated with oil and gas companies. The contributions included $4,000 from Exxon Mobil and $4,000 from the Independent Petroleum Association of America, which seeks to maintain ‘a pro-oil and gas Congress.’ [Dole FEC Report, 7/15/08; IPAA Website, Viewed 7/21/08]” from a Hagan Press Release http://www.kayhagan.com/press/dole-helps-exxon-mobil-haul-in-record-profits-while-families-pay-record-gas-prices-dole-took-20k-from-exxon-mobil-including-4k-in-june

What is the IPAA?

“Today, IPAA represents the thousands of independent oil and natural gas producers and service companies across the United States. Independent producers develop 90 percent of domestic oil and gas wells, produce 68 percent of domestic oil and produce 82 percent of domestic natural gas. A recent analysis has shown that independent producers are investing 150 percent of their domestic cash flow back into domestic oil and natural gas development—borrowing funds to enhance their already aggressive efforts to find and produce more energy.” (IPAA Website, http://www.ipaa.org/about/default.asp)

III. New TV ad: .net/

IV. Oil Wells

Hagan Financial Disclosure Forms

Hagan’s charge is not only hypocritical but it’s false. Sen. Dole has been out in front on this issue and even introduced a bill to repeal more than $17 Billion in tax credits for oil companies and redirect that revenue to investments in alternative renewable energy.

Re: Who's the liar?

Fiber Kay is the same women, who in her ad, stated that she has balanced the North Carolina budget every time since becoming part of the budget committee.

LIE

The General Assembly is bound by the North Carolina Constitution to balance the budget.

Sec. 5. Duties of Governor.

(3) Budget. The Governor shall prepare and recommend to the General Assembly a comprehensive budget of the anticipated revenue and proposed expenditures of the State for the ensuing fiscal period. The budget as enacted by the General Assembly shall be administered by the Governor.

"The total expenditures of the State for the fiscal period covered by the budget shall not exceed the total of receipts during that fiscal period and the surplus remaining in the State Treasury at the beginning of the period. To insure that the State does not incur a deficit for any fiscal period, the Governor shall continually survey the collection of the revenue and shall effect the necessary economies in State expenditures, after first making adequate provision for the prompt payment of the principal of and interest on bonds and notes of the State according to their terms, whenever he determines that receipts during the fiscal period, when added to any surplus remaining in the State Treasury at the beginning of the period, will not be sufficient to meet budgeted expenditures. This section shall not be construed to impair the power of the State to issue its bonds and notes within the limitations imposed in Article V of this Constitution, nor to impair the obligation of bonds and notes of the State now outstanding or issued hereafter."

Seems to me that she lied right there.

Who's the liar?

Dole is the liar. That's clear. She makes up a name to call Hagan and runs a commercial trumpeting it. That's Dole's campaign now, because she has nothing else to run on. This is typical of the right wing - use the "some say" tactic. Let's call this ad what it really is: a lie.

Re: Binker: Who's 'Fibber Kay'?

Kay Hagan is a pork hog and that is the truth. She has proposed over ONE BILLION in pork during her run in the North Carolina Senate.

Are you sure Hagan is telling the truth about giving licenses to illegal immigrants. I do recall that Hagan played a major role in making it easier for illegals to get licenses and now all of a sudden she is is for making it tougher.

Hagan as a budget writer has played a role in why my taxes are so high now and that I may have to downsize my house. Hagan played a major role in why the state budget is over $21 BILLION dollars. That is up almost double from where it was last decade. NO, our population has not doubled in the last decade.

Hagan is a product of Basnight and Rand both 2 of the 5 or 6 people that actually run our state. Hagan is getting 8 million from a 3rd party who is attacking Dole. There is no way Hagan will be a independent voice in Washington like she said in her ad on TV. So yes, Hagan is a fibber.

Paul Terrell III
http://terrellforhouse33.blogspot.com

PS Yes my opponent is a fibber also. He stated his support for a moritorium on Forced Annexation, then turned around and sabotaged the bill. The bill was fixed in the House but by that time Rand and Basnight would not let it have a open vote to pass it. Blue was obstructionist the whole way.

Binker

what do "they" call Mark Binker?

They call her lyin' Libby

Sorry, had to throw it in. I must disclose that I stole it, though, from a regular contributor to BLUENC.

Hagan hasn't lied, NCSBoy. You can't pin that on her.

Listen, you seem like a Dole fan. Where does she actually live, anyway?

To me there's something suspicious about claiming to respresent a state that you barely set foot in.

Re: Binker: Who's 'Fibber Kay'?

Did Hagan lie? YES

Calling her fibber is lighter and SHOULD be used

Re: Binker: Who's 'Fibber Kay'?

Now THAT is funny! Poor Old Dole (and I do mean poor old Dole) will show that whippersnapper, won't she! She'll scold her with fifties lingo.

Ya know the thing about young dogs is they can learn new tricks. Old dogs have a harder time with that. Poor Dole.

That depends on what the definition of "consistent" is.

Lying Liddy says in her ad that "we know that Elizabeth has been consistently voted one of the Ten Most Admired Women in the World". If, by consistent you mean not since 2005, then she is not a liar. And, if she means that being displaced by Hillary Clinton as the Most Admired Women in the World by REPUBLICAN women is "consistent", then she is not lying.

What does she mean by consistent Ryan?