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A practical and a religious argument

Cullie TarletonRep. Cullie Tarleton said restaurant owners are in favor of the ban.

Speaking on the House floor, the Watauga County Democrat said that he has a friend who owns a restaurant and bar in Blowing Rock who calls once or twice a week asking about the proposed smoking ban.

He said that, statistically speaking, four North Carolinians died today because of second-hand smoke.

He also quoted a letter from Rev. Mark Creech, executive director of the Christian Action League of North Carolina. 


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Re: A practical and a religious argument

"He said that, statistically speaking, four North Carolinians died today because of second-hand smoke."

Rep. Cullie Tarleton has shown his ignorance. Nobody has ever doed from SHS exposure. Nobody. The junk science promoting otherwise has been repeatedly and thoroughly exposed. For a start see for examples of how twisted the "science" really is.

It would be essential to foster an atmosphere where it was perceived that active smokers would injure those around them, especially their family and any infants or young children who would be exposed involuntarily to [smoke in the air].
-- former British Chief Medical Officer Sir George Godber at a World Health Organization conference in 1975 (This date is NOT a typo)

Antismokers are the worst examples of "Christians". The Rep should be ashamed for promoting such socially divisive machinations. Utterly ashamed.

Re: A practical and a religious argument

"statistically speaking" of how many people die from "second-hand smoke" is quite accurately, "statistically speaking."

And the Antismokers can make that number be just about anything they want it to be just by juggling the statistics. There is a computer program called SAMMEC (Statistically Atributable Morbidity, Mortality, and Economic Costs) that churns out numbers based on formulas and those numbers are used all over the country as though they are real numbers based on real deaths of real people.

They're not. Juggle a statistic here or there and the numbers will be totally different. They're just another way of lying.

Want to see some real numbers that expose how the antismoking lobby lies? Stanton Glantz, grand guru of the Antismokers in California, calls any claims that bans hurt business "hogwash." Of course he's gotten tens of millions of dollars in grants to encourage him to say such things, but let's take a look at just one example to see if he's telling the truth. Minnesota keeps a very nice and detailed record of its tax income from charitable gambling. Take a quick look at the very simple graph at:

and see what smoking bans did to Minnesota and see if you think "hogwash" is a truthful way of describing it. The trend got even worse throughout 2008 although I haven't graphed it yet.

And then think for a minute: if they're lying about something that's so easily seen and easily checked, think how much MORE they're lying about all the "deadly threat of secondhand smoke" stuff that's much harder to prove to be nonsense.

Smoking bans are bad laws based on lies, even bans with lots of "exemptions" that the Antismokers will come back and scream about the following year. The only way to shut them up is to pass a blanket "no government ban" law and include a portion that locks it in for two or three years of peace.

Michael J. McFadden
Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"
{I don't usually do this in discussions like these, but given that time is fairly short before a vote, I'd urge legislators to read the ETS Exposure excerpt at )

Re: A practical and a religious argument

Don't tell me, let me guess. Rev. Creech said that if the ban wasn't passed, then we'd all be FORCED to buy cigs and smoke them whether we want to or not?

I wish that man would just give it up already. Every time he opens his mouth or puts pen to paper, he just makes himself look foolish.

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