527 ad against Obama to debut in N.C.

jjsmith2

I totally agree with you

How old are you? I guess you are perfect. I am a Clinton supporter but I know how to add. Furthermore, Clinton and Obama have a past. They have both done things in their lives. We have also done things in our lives that we wish we could take back. The bottom line is that people like you should look in the mirror before you start passing judgment. As much as I prefer Clinton, she would need to win 65%-70% of the remaining contest to get close and she would still be behind. If Obama is the nominee, I will vote for him. If you are a true Democrat, you would vote for a Democrat.

As far as Florida and Michigan, the rules were not followed. My daughter is 5 and she understands the rules game.

The Republicans do not want to run against Obama. Why do you think they are going after him instead of Clinton. Clinton is one of them.

The 527 know what they are doing. If Clinton was the frontrunner they would be going after her. The Clintons are due in court tomorrow...here in Los Angeles, Ca over the biggest fraud case in American history. The Clintons do not want that to get out to the media.

If you don't believe me...go to the web and check out the "trial case with Peter Paul vs Clinton fraud case.

The Clintons are also under investigation for other fraud case. The Clinton also have a circle of friends that should be questioned.

Are you kidding me? I am sure that 95% of the people on this site have done something in their lives that they would like to take back.

The Republicans do not want to run against Obama. Why do you think they are going after him instead of Clinton. Clinton is one of them.

The 527 know what they are doing. If Clinton was the frontrunner they would be going after her. The Clintons are due in court tomorrow...here in Los Angeles, Ca over the biggest fraud case in American history. The Clintons do not want that to get out to the media.

If you don't believe me...go to the web and check out the "trial case with Peter Paul vs Clinton fraud case.

Well I know they vote democratic in state and local elections. Still, interesting.

Checked the precinct link, again, you are correct.

They are Reagan Democrats. Every state has them. North Carolina's happens to vote Republican for President but on local issues vote Democratic.

Also, the 2006 Precinct link is a completely different set of data.

interesting demographics, I wonder why NC always goes Republican in the presidential elections since there are fewer registered republicans than dems? I guess that's why the republicans are starting the 527 ads here, need to keep NC in the republican camp to win in Nov.

Actually the website indicates those numbers were compiled by precinct in 2006, even if posted as 2007 and last "updated" in January 2008.

bnartist, the Rezko projects were a combination of taxpayer and private funding. They were set up so that if they failed, Rezko et al did not have to repay the loans. There are several articles linking similar low-income public/private funded projects to the failure of the credit market for housing. These are, of course, written by right wing conservatives, but aren't we talking about what right wing conservatives will be able to use against Obama if he becomes the nominee? I thought that was what the topic was.

Why do Obama supporters always cry racism whenever there is a discussion critical of Obama?

Yes, they are 2007 numbers, but compiled and posted on 1/2/2008

I found the state website, thanks. Looks like your numbers are from 2007, but you are right, NC is not majority black democrats.

The North Carolina State Board of Elections.

As of January 2, 2008 (refutes the nice little cross over argument you've created) there are 2,511,446 registered Democrats--1,472,854 are white and 947,321 are black.

Facts are Phun

Over half? Is that with the new republican cross overs who have changed their registrations just to manipulate this election? w\Where do you get your data?

I'm happy to be proven wrong, just show me the data.

Limbaugh only asked the republicans who were crossing over to defeat Clinton to start voting for Clinton so as to keep the dem primary going and suck Obama's funding dry.

Check out all the republican cross-overs who had already signed up as volunteers in Texas who confessed they had no intention of voting for Obama in November.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23394070/
http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/359

Note that some of the people posting comments on the RFO were Republicans from Wyoming who did the same thing.

Over half of the registered Democrats in North Carolina are whites. Go back and check your talking points. Better yet, just scrap the talking points.

Anyone know where this other 527 ad about Obama's links to shady characters can be found? The one they mentioned last night during the campaign coverage?

states with black majority as registered democrats: Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina.

Didn't stop people electing George Bush for two terms.

If there was any Republican crossover it was to vote for Clinton a la Limbaugh.

There are no doubt districts in the United State that have a majority black Democratic electorate but you'll have to back up your claim that there are whole states with a majority black Democratic electorate with a little more than the smoke you have been blowing (or inhaling) in this thread.

A Republican Governor vetoed this bill. The bill was pure politics. Gang members are still eligible for the death penalty. This bill would have have been struck down as unconstitutional.

Rezko is Catholic. He was born in Aleppo in Syria, an ancient city with strong Jewish and Catholic heritage.

The housing crisis is a result of private sector greed, not public funding.

You're clutching at strawmen with racist smears.

Obama's wins show two things.

First, there were a lot of cross over republicans who voted in the democratic primaries who aren't going to vote for Obama in November. They voted for Obama in the primary as a way to defeat Clinton, because they don't think they will be able to beat her in the general election, and because they think they can beat Obama in the general election. It's the only way they can win the white house.

Second, in a number of the states he won, the democratic demographic is majority black even though African Americans do not make up a majority of the voters in the state.

I wouldn't agree that Obama has been vetted.

Most of the legislative credits he claims are the result of other people's work. He hasn't headed any significant organization in an executive capacity, and he is a student of old style "pay to play" politics in Chicago which he learned from Emil Jones, Jr.

The Rezko thing is still out there, and at least one reliable newspaper has indicated that Obama is the unnamed "politician" identified in the charges.

No one has asked him when the last time he used cocaine was, he doesn't really say in his book,but using cocaine over a period of several years isn't the same thing as "experimenting" with pot. Why hasn't the news followed up on this, why hasn't he been asked this question? There is a poll out there that indicates 74% of voters will NOT vote for someone who has used cocaine. Even at a 10% or 15% margin of error, that's a pretty difficult number to overcome.

And Obama's wins in Iowa, Minnesota, Colorado, Virginia, Maryland, Connecticut, Wisconsin shows what?--that Obama doesn't have a diverse base?

And there is no way you can convince anyone that New York, California, or Massachusetts (they voted for Mondale) will vote for McCain. I still don't understand how someone who isn't even winning her own party's primary is some how more electable.

what those states show is that Hillary has more diverse support than Obama, who has only attracted young and black voters. He has divided the party, and it is clear that most of the Clinton voters in those states have said they won't back Obama in the general. Which means the dems lose states they have won for years, a whole new electoral map for McCain. Why do you think he's been testing the waters this week in traditional democratic stomping grounds?

Clinton appeals to people who have been paying the bills and working for more than a couple of years, some young, most of the old, regardless of race, rich, poor, black and white. She is the candidate who can win.

Hillary knew the rules going into this. And let's not complain about Florida and Michigan. There were no real primaries in either of those states. Hillary won in Michigan because she had the benefit of being the only name on the ballot and she won in Florida because no one campaigned there.

this whole vetting thing is mysterious to me. Hillary is claiming that she is already vetted because her's and her husband's dirty laundry has been aired out in public for the past 16 years. It is also fair to say that Obama has been vetted. True, the amount of skeletons found in Obama's closet are far less in number than Hillary's, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been vetted. Also, the fact that Hillary has more skeletons in her closet isn't a good thing. There is a reason why she has the highest negatives of any candidate in this race, both democratic and republicn.

Now onto the electoral college argument. Look at the states Hillary won. These are states, with the rare exception, that no republican has carried since 1988. am I now to believe that California, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, are now all of the sudden going to vote republican? If Hillary wants to win the White House, she'll have to win in states like Colorado, Washington, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois. She didn't.

As a proud native central Pennsylvanian, I wouldn't worry about the words of Meeks or Wright too much. The parts of the state that it hurts Obama wouldn't vote for Hillary in November anyway. If anything, Hillary has to worry about disenfranchising black and young voters alike.

well, she's behind only because of the caucus format, which seems to have disenfranchised her supporters, and because they won't seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan, and because the media wouldn't vet Obama. It's a shame they are leaving that up to the republicans, who will defeat him in Nov. if he is the nominee. Most of the states Obama has won are states that typically go republican in the general election, and there is no reason to think that is going to change this year. On the other hand, I think that if Clinton wins in PA today, and you look at the electoral map for the general, the states she has won, inspite of Obama doubling and tripling her spending, would provide enough electoral votes for her to win the general election.

Obama can't say the same. He won't carry states like Penn and Ohio where Rev. Wright and Meeks racist diatribes, and Obama's own comments about rural people "clinging" to religion are going to piss people off. Not to mention the cocaine thing.

North Carolina hasn't voted Democratic for President since 1976, I don't think anyone expects that to change.

I find it interesting that a person who supports Hillary Clinton is talking about Obama being unelectable. Hillary is behind in the popular vote, behind in pledge delegates, and yet somehow, the candidate who is beating her is unelectable and she is electable.

I know her campaign is attempting to change the laws of mathematics, but I didn't know they were attempting to change the laws of reason and logic as well.

Now that I think about it, I'm not surprised that this is the first topic of a 527 ad funded by Republican interests. They want to keep the focus on the war against terror because that is McCain's strength.

Those republican's are good politicians - too bad I don't agree with their policies.

jj, what makes you think it won't work? I think it would work. And I think the one they are working on addressing Obama's cocaine use in high school and college will work too. So will the excerpt from the Compassion forum where he didn't talk about his faith. Instead he talked about talking about faith, about politicians needing to "go to church" so they could connect with people whose faith is important in how they vote.

These topics will play with conservative middle America. It's why he isn't electable. It's why NC will end up being a republican state again in Nov. no matter who the Democratic candidate is.

They may know what they are doing, but it will not work--not this year.

you don't think people will connect the "gangs" in Chicago with the "gangs" of Sunni militants shooting people on the streets in Iraq that we see on TV every night?

Puleeze! These ad people know exactly what they are doing.

so because Obama didn't support expanding the death penalty, in a state that had numerous troubles with the death penalty, he is some how weak on terror?

I also love that part about the newspaper calling it urban terrorism, as if it had something to do with fighting islamist terrorists.

Here's the YouTube link if you want to see for yourself.

Interesting, I would have thought the first 527 ads would have "followed the money" in the Rezko mess. Wouldn't take much to put two and two together to get people to see four, especially with Rezko being Syrian, and Obama's ties to the Arab-American community in Chicago, and the possible links between these failed taxpayer funded projects and the current housing crisis.

Did you actually read Michelle's 'Princeton Educated Blacks and the Black Community' ? I found nothing in that paper that would allow a non-bigot to make the comments that you made. By the way, I am white and extremely accomplished from a career and financial perspective and I love my country. If you didn't personally read it, I would recommend that you go to politico.com and find it.
As a Catholic, I guess I should have left the church a long time ago, when the scandals with sexual assualts on children by priests occured...but like Obama with his church, I would venture to say that most Catholics stayed at their church and believed in the greater good of the church and that justice would eventually be done. The act of the individuals that performed such horrendous crimes against defenseless children is abhored but God is greater than all of this.
As far as your website reference on hipocrisy, I will visit it, as I like to be completely informed and I research issues to the core so I'll see what it says indeed.
I have found that in general there is a sad deep bigotry in some of the statements being made against Obama.

Thanks for just a-copin' and a-pastin' off grandpa's soup box...

Voters should scrutinize the personal choices (e.g., choosing the Anti-White Ideology of Black Liberation Theology) of a candidate which can influence his perception of the world and events taking place in the world.

Barack Obama - Frank Davis (Member of Communist Party USA, Early mentor to Obama) - Michelle's thesis and public comments - 20 Years of the Anti-White Ideology of Black Liberation Theology - Spiritual Adviser/Mentor Rev. Jeremiah Wright - Wright's "Greatest Hits!" videos - Wright's diatribes, "US of KKK-A" - "White Oppressors" - Wright's Mentor James Cone - 'Black Theology & Black Power' - Million Man March - Nation Of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan's statement, Obama is the "hope of the entire world" - Wright's gift of a 'Lifetime Achievement Award' to the Anti-White, Anti-Catholic, and Anti-Semitic Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan - 'Hamas Terror Manifesto' published in the 7/22/2007 Bulletin of the Trinity United Church of Christ - Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi of Libya - Rashid Khalidi (Ties to Terror Financing) - Nadhmi Auchi (Bankrolled Rezko and other politicians) - Obama's 17 year relationship with Tony Rezko (Corrupt Financier, ties to Terror Financing) - Rezko helped Obama get a $300,000 discount on the purchase price of his home - any 'quid pro quo'? - Raila Ordinga (Fundamental Islamic Candidate, Kenya, Obama's Cousin) - William Ayers (Weatherman Underground Bomber, Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist) - Barack Obama - 20 Years of the Anti-White Ideology of Black Liberation Theology - If You Don't Believe It - Leave It!

Barack Obama chose a circle of friends who are emphatically Anti-American. Obama chose a spiritual adviser/mentor who taught the Anti-White Ideology of Black Liberation Theology.

Obama listened to the Anti-White Ideology for 20 years, exposed his daughters to the Anti-White Ideology, and gave significant amounts of money to support the preaching of the Anti-White Ideology.

How does it affect a person who has listened to the Anti-White Ideology for 20 years? How does it affect the children?

How many times can a person hear about the "White Oppressors" before he begins believing that, as Rev. Wright describes America, the "US of KKK-A" owes him - big time?

Visit the web site that Barack Obama does not want voters to read. Learn why Obama cannot beat Sen. McCain at: http://www.AudacityofHypocrisy.com/

Just more of the same old messages of fear and smear from the far right wing loonies. What can you expect. Children will be children. Fortunately, voters are finally maturing somewhat, and can see through this juvenile garbage.