Closing doors to illegal immigrants


Leaders of the state's community colleges voted today to close their doors to illegal immigrants until they complete a study and come up with a permanent policy.

The decision today by the State Board of Community Colleges marks a reversal from Thursday, when officials indicated they were inclined to admit illegal immigrants pending the outcome of the study, reports Lynn Bonner.

Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue, the Democratic candidate for governor, made the motion to ban illegal immigrants from community colleges while the study is ongoing.

Leaders of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC were quick to praise the board's move.

"The vast majority of NC's legal citizenry do not want illegal aliens in the limited seats of our colleges," William Gheen of ALIPAC said in a statement. "We are happy the board upheld the ban so the campaigns for public office and eventually the state legislature can take up this issue."

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Re: Closing doors to illegal immigrants

Would YOU give up YOUR job to an ILLEGAL? We must ask the community college presidents this question! Ask your local CC president via email today!

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Economy slows, NC unemployment rises
NCNN – North Carolina News Network

(RALEIGH)--North Carolina's unemployment rate jumped sharply last month to its highest level in nearly five years. Larry Parker with the N.C.Employment Security Commission says as the economy continues to lag, the jobless rate has increased to 6.6 percent.
http://www.ncnn.com/content/view/3156/26/

And yet we have extremist liberals, bleeding hearts, IA advocates and moronic administrators, bureaucrats and politicians wanting to put illegal aliens into our colleges to better educate them to join the LEGAL workforce!

Illegal immigration is not a single-issue topic. It pervades every portion of society from the state of the economy to gas prices to infrastructure costs to crime and taxes spent on social services including education and health care. There is not one segment of society that is not touched negatively by illegal immigration

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Typical liberal perspective. Pick and choose what laws you want to obey, reject others. Obviously, you think that resources are unlimited including seats in colleges/community colleges. What's your plan...the typical lib/Democrat action to increase taxes to solve all problems?

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How would you feel if your son or daughter's seat in college was taken by an illegal alien?

How would your son or daughter feel if their seat in college was taken by an illegal alien?

Community Colleges don't turn anyone away if they can make the class. Your son or daughter's seat will not be "taken" by anyone; they just make another seat. Get the facts.

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We have a $21.3 billion budget that needs to be reduced in order to provide tax relief to North Carolinians. $5 million here or there adds up to $100 million here or there that adds up to $1 billion here or there.

Our citizens deserve much better! Next year a democratic majority will raise taxes and greatly expand state government. Wake Up North Carolina and end this ever rising roller coaster before we come crashing down.

Paul Terrell III
http:terrellforhouse33.blogspot.com

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What are the numbers?

- While NCCCS (NC Community College System) reports that only 112 illegal aliens are currently enrolled in the curriculum instruction component of the community college system, Civitas Institute analysis of U.S. Census data suggests the number is closer to 10,000. A very conservative estimate would place the cost to educate these students at $5 million to $7 million. Keep in mind that the reported number of 112 is so low because it is dependent on illegals aliens declaring they are such upon enrollment (self-reporting). Very few, as evidenced above actually tell the truth regarding their immigration status.

- NCCCS is continuing to educate thousands of illegal aliens – more than 37,000, according to our estimates – via its continuing education programs.

- Continuing education courses are generally offered free of charge to all students – at a cost to taxpayers of $154.4 million. Presuming that illegal aliens make up at least 6.5 percent of enrollment, the cost to taxpayers is more than $10 million.

- Instruction costs do not include capital costs. Statewide general obligation bonds for the community college system are $850 million; local bonds for community colleges are millions more.

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The rule of law is one prime determining factor that differentiates first world and third world countries. It mandates that illegal behavior be punished and never rewarded. Granting benefits, such as entry into our colleges to those in our country illegally offends this principle. Worse, it perverts the law by punishing those who have or are in the process of entering legally and discriminates against citizens who would be negatively affected. Even if I agreed (which I don't) that illegals should be allowed to attend our colleges, who would be willing to state unequivocally that not one single tax dollar would be used and not one single citizen or LEGAL immigrant would be ever denied admittance because of space availability?

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How would you feel if your son or daughter's seat in college was taken by an illegal alien?

How would your son or daughter feel if their seat in college was taken by an illegal alien?

How do you feel knowing that NC will allow illegal aliens to attend college with taxpayer resources used even if they are required to pay out of state tuition because of the capital costs involved?

How do you feel giving access to our institutions of higher learning to illegal aliens for further education and training to a group of people who are not even able to work in America legally?

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Illegal aliens and their advocates like to state that the college age illegals (young adults) should not be punished because it was their parents who broke the law. But, allowing these illegal alien young adults to attend college and remain in the U.S. rewards them for their parents breaking the law. Another claim you often hear is that prohibiting illegal aliens from attending community college is “inhumane”. This argument presumes that obtaining a taxpayer-subsidized college degree is a basic human right. Basic human rights, however, are universal and unchanging and the need or desire for a college degree is neither. This is not to say that obtaining a college education is not important. But is it more important than the rule of law, which illegal immigration undermines, not to mention the will of the people?

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The statements you hear from advocates for illegal aliens in favor of them having access to our colleges generally flow around their claim that better educated illegals will be more productive and will assimilate better into our society. This is not only fuzzy thinking, it is faulty logic. It’s very precept is that the illegal gets additional benefits to what they have already enjoyed by illegally remaining and operating here and gives a segment of them what they want – unfettered access to our higher education system (in addition to our primary education system that they have already utilized). This, of course, will be costly to the American taxpayer whether the illegal pays out of state tuition or not. It also deprives a deserving citizen or legal immigrant of the seat that the illegal would occupy. Another marketing campaign is that a child should not be penalized because of the ‘sins’ of their parents. Allowing access to higher education, however, allows the child to benefit from the fact their parents broke the law. Where does the rule of law fit into all of this? Actually, no where. The very act of allowing placement of an illegal alien into our colleges tears at the social fabric of our culture by favoritism to a group people who are out of compliance with our laws. These very same people would then be free to operate lawlessly living and working alongside of citizens and legal immigrants who have been required to abide by our laws. The dichotomy here is not only egregious, it is outrageous. It is anarchy.

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Civitas Institute Decision Maker Poll Results of NC voters:

- 69% of N.C. voters oppose providing education benefits to illegal immigrants (August 2005).
- 68% of N.C. voters oppose allowing illegal immigrants to enroll in community colleges (February 2008).

Its far beyond time that the NC General Assembly abides by the will of the NC people in this matter. Attendance at any institution of higher education in NC should be reserved for citizens and LEGAL immigrants.

South Carolina and Virginia have already taken action and passed legislation denying illegal aliens attendance in colleges in their state. NC needs to follow suit.

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The fact is that things like college admittance and in-state tuition are just stepping stones to more things in the future. Just as giving a "free" primary and secondary education to all illegal alien kids was a stepping stone to them now demanding college admittance and in-state tuition, even at the detriment of Americans and legal residents who will lose their seat in the class in order to placate breakers of our laws.

The reality is that illegal aliens should receive no benefits, including admittance to college. Zip. Zero. Nothing. Nada.

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It is violation of law that illegal aliens are allowed into colleges at all. I would argue that it is in violation of the 'aiding and abetting' statute in the 1986 IRCA (Immigration Reform and Control Act)
Even if illegal aliens were to pay out of state tuition, it would not cover the entire cost of their education because of capital costs, often conveniently left out (or purposely lessened) in the total costs calculations. Therefore, taxpayer subsidization of illegal aliens would occur. Also, why would any legislator allow an illegal alien to take a seat in college from a deserving American citizen or legal immigrant?
Seats in colleges are a limited and highly coveted resource, why the hell would you put an illegal alien into one?

Why should we be in the business of educating and training a group of people who are illegally here and cannot legally be employed?

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They DID, in fact, value their own personal safety, and chose the right decision!

STRIVE to be SMARTER than a NC democrackkk!

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Cheer!

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Sigh.