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Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

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Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

ishley — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:58:06 -0500

The best article on the U.S. health system that I've come across was in the September issue of The Atlantic: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200909/health-care

Basically, health insurance should be phased out over time so that everybody pays for routine medical expenses just like they pay for everything else: out of their pocket. As it stands right now, insurance perverts our health care system in numerous detrimental ways. For instance, people have a strong incentive to overspend because their co-pay is capped. Also, doctors and hospitals are not paid by patients; instead, they're paid by insurance companies and the US Gov. And those rising health insurance premiums...they're coming right out of your potential raise.Read the article in order to understand how we're only digging ourselves deeper into this hole, regardless of what sort of health care "reform" comes out of Congress this year.

If people paid for their own health care, price competition would drive down costs, and practitioners would offer a variety of payment options, including paying based on wellness rather than on extra services rendered. Note that this system would coexist just fine with a subsidy for the poorest Americans, kind of like "welfare."

Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

Seafever — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:09:14 -0500

Stopping child abuse in the projects would reduce the need for health care. Birth control would reduce the need for health care. Careful and kind rearing of children would reduce the need for health care, and would have the added benefit of producing strong and healthy citizens--not ganstas, prostitutes, and drug dealers.
Harsh and careless child rearing leads to drive-bys, gunshot wounds, ER visits, street fights, fisticuffs, and more prostitution and more babies.
Take a walk on the wild side, Rev. Barber; see what needs to be done besides piling on more debt.

Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

Seafever — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:08:22 -0500

Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

StatesRights — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:44:38 -0500

Wait a minute...there are wicked special interest groups lobbying FOR health care reform?!? Most of the posts I've seen in the N&O indicate there are only wicked special interest groups lobbying AGAINST it! I guess all those posters are probably surprised to read THIS!

Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

GrayJ — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:06:52 -0500

"to train people to call Hagan"

Who needs training to call an elected official?

Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

BitterEXdemocrat — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:13:03 -0500

Wonder how many of the NAALCP folks support Planned Parenthood?

we need to reform healthcare by LOWERING THE COSTS FOR EVERYONE!
TORT REFORM! Let EACH ONE pay for HIS/HER OWN insurance! We will
care for the indigent thru charity! LOWER HEALTHCARE PREMIUMS and COSTS!
Get the government OUT OF HEALTHCARE, its NOT a FUNCTION of government!

Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

Blacktea — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:06:52 -0500

Geez! Why didn't Barber say X number of Americans have died due to no insurance, instead of LYING and stating this fabricated 880,000 African Americans have died over the past ten years. Harvard did a study and quoted 45,000 Americans ( that's all races including African American) a year die from lack of Insurance. Do the math that's only 450,000 for 10 years for all races.Every time you open your mouth Barber you show your ignorance.

Re: Hagan gets visit from NAACP

stevemichaels — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:37:52 -0500

I am not too much into the fight over health care, I have just resigned the fact that I am in the middle class and will get the shaft in whatever the government puts into place. However I always get a laugh when I see items like this - 880,000 have died because of "no insurance" - well how many have died with insurance? How many of the 880k died from accidents, crime, disease brought on by self indulgence, drugs etc.... These crazy figures get thrown around and no one ever researches or digs deep. Everytime a politican or group discusses the number of uninsured the number changes is it 30 million, 50 million? or various numbers in the middle. I would expect no more from the NAACP or political hacks, but would hope the media would take a few minutes and actually question and research such claims. Me, I will just pay my high premiums and hope death comes quickly!

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Re: Quick Hits

Gosh — Fri, 01 May 2009 18:15:05 -0400

I am still awaiting your refute of my arguments as to why it was appropriate to water board Mohammed...

You already admitted you were against waterboarding in that thread after being caught in countless other false assertions.

What particular coffin nail are you waiting for now? You conceded waterboarding is torture, and then threw Burr under a bus.

You don't get this debate stuff at all do you, Citizen?

When you lose, it's over!

Re: Quick Hits

CitizenOpinionated — Fri, 01 May 2009 10:56:48 -0400

It is simply precious that you are so overly self-absorbed...

I am still awaiting your refute of my arguments as to why it was appropriate to water board Mohammed...

Simply precious!

Re: Quick Hits

Gosh — Fri, 01 May 2009 09:47:48 -0400

Simply precious CO. Simply precious.

Re: Quick Hits

CitizenOpinionated — Fri, 01 May 2009 09:28:42 -0400

Well Gosh - not that I am defending Paul - never met him - not in my district - how about you run for office since apparently you have two cents to say about everyone conservative. Why not put your money where your mouth is instead of hiding behind some pin name? I would run but I am too young and it is funny because I am probably able to defeat you in any political debate about the issues. What does that say for you moon bat?

OMG Paul Terrell

Gosh — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:03:18 -0400

With 17,245 registered Republican and Independent voters in NC House 33, you only got 7,199 votes. Wow, I feel so bad for you.

Not that 18 percent of the vote is anything to laugh at. Percentage-wise you're at least half as succesful as Keith Olbermann that just called Virgina Foxx the Worst Person in the World. You know, compared to the 82 percent rejection you just received from the mainstream Americans you sought to represent with your wingnuttery, I mean...

What. Is. Wrong. With. Normal. People.

Huh?

Know what I'm saying? Your ideology is clearly right. Guess we're all just dumb, huh!?

Keep hate alive Paul Terrell, Man of the People with 3 Roman Numerals after your name. No embarrassing rejection by mainstream America should ever stop you from talking about Fox News ratings to defend your wackiness in my book.