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Re: What North Carolina thinks: Civitas II

domewatcher — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:56:14 -0500

Both the Civitas and PPP polls should be treated under the guidelines of the old "informed buyer and informed seller in the open market, etc."

I take the objective approach to both polls. I agree with whatever poll results coincide with my sick, twisted political views.

I think the name "Civitas" sounds real fancy so I drop it at cocktail parties at the truck stop. I once dated a girl from Elon and she was pretty fancy herself.

Re: What North Carolina thinks: Civitas II

FFC1304 — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:01:18 -0500

Civitas is far from 'questionable'! In fact they can be trusted more than the NC 'leaders' AND the NC mainscream media! (is this paper still mainscream?)

Re: What North Carolina thinks: Civitas II

maiapinion — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:40:53 -0500

I just find it hard to believe that Civitas can represent what North Carolinians think. Interesting poll, but you know. Civitas.

Re: What North Carolina thinks: Civitas II

tangoz — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:28:05 -0500

It is funny how someone calls a legitmate scientific poll by Civitas propoganda and a poll by let's say PPP as gospel. That is pure double-standard known in this world as hypocrisy. I take all scientific and non-scientific polls and their margins of error as what they are.

I do not call any scientific poll a piece of propaganda. I found Dean of PPP quite friendly and engaging. If I ever run for office and actually have the money and need for a poll i would consider PPP and would use them with other polling firms. PPP is called a Democratic Polling firm by some.

Considering Protzman's ties to MoveOn.org and his own blog BlueNC I find anything he says is propaganda.

Fair enough

James_Protzman — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:50:42 -0500

Thanks.

James Protzman
Intelligent reader

Re: What North Carolina thinks: Civitas II

ryanteaguebeckwith — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:20:47 -0500

I didn't say the wording of all of their polls is questionable. I noted the two that I thought were loaded. That doesn't negate the rest of their results.

None of the North Carolina polls is entirely perfect, but I try to present them with all the appropriate caveats so that intelligent readers such as yourself can decide what to make of them.

— RTB

Re: What North Carolina thinks: Elon

FFC1304 — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:35:55 -0500

As an ELON alumnus...would you please poll people on their opinion for the Constitutional need for states rights and sovereignty from the federal government? thanks!

Re: What North Carolina thinks: Civitas II

James_Protzman — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:12:52 -0500

85: Sick of the N&O reporting the results of this "research."

You've already said the wording of the Civitas polls are questionable, which is surely true. Why then are you promulgating their propaganda?

Re: Odometer tax to offset dropping per gallon tax revenues...

ryanteaguebeckwith — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:06:16 -0500

Per my colleague, Mark Johnson:

Part of the tax, 17.5 cents, is a flat per-gallon rate. An additional 12.35 cents rises or falls with the wholesale price of gas, adjusted every six months. Gas has now fallen below the price at which the adjustable portion of the tax was frozen two years ago, so the cap is irrelevant.

Hope that helps!

— RTB

Odometer tax to offset dropping per gallon tax revenues...

Penny_Wise — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:09:53 -0500

This was not clearly explained - what they are probably referencing is the fact that taxes on a gallon of gas at $1.69 a gallon are probably less than they were back during 2005, BECAUSE back then the rate was a variable rate and made up a larger percentage of the price of a gallon of gas ... just a guess.

Re: Vehicle miles tax idea advances

mn2grafx — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:43:58 -0500

Here is one for you....

Say I travel out of state. While driving my vehicle I end up putting on some 2-3000 more miles while out of state. Now I have to pay my state for the miles I drove in another state? How does that work?

Ok second theory here....

How will they do this? Read the odometer and implement a new database or an area in an existing database? Hello wouldn't that take funding to make and test? Even adding a simple little box would take money to program, money to implement across the state at the various inspection sites, money to pay the testers, and money to upkeep the servers it would need to be housed on. I mean come on now. Why spend more money to make less? Ok what about devices? You know to make sure the people don't just roll back the odometer a few hundred miles to save a few bucks. Would everyone have to go purchase these or would the state provide them? Ooops more money spent by either the consumer (which would probably get taxed at the shop selling the device too), or the government. Ooops what if it breaks?

I realize the government does some things backwards, take the way they name things, but this is going a bit far. How can yet another burden of taxes fly to the consumer? Aren't we taxed enough? Food, drinks, products, gas, state, federal? I came from Ohio we had local taxes too. Instead of hairbrain ideas how about something like a simple local tax, you know the one by the cities? Every city had their tax rates usually around 2%, this helped to offset stupid hairbrained ideas such as this one. Tax on gas is low and some cities even put no tax on beverages. Overall cities were able to overcome problems such as this!

Re: Panel recommends 'odometer' tax

dahedgehog — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:09:17 -0500

Are you ever going to fix the part in this post about "declining fuel prices"?

Re: Panel recommends 'odometer' tax

FFC1304 — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:44:07 -0500

On your many requests for charitable donations this time of year, and the future...

"Im sorry but due to the HIGH TAXATION agenda of NC democrats, and now the 10% Progress Energy rate increase, there will be NO MORE DONATIONS for your group. If you feel this is discriminatory, thank a NC democrat 'leader'!"

Lets demonstrate to the charities how HIGH STATE TAXES erode their donations. It ought to wake up a few folks who BEG for money!

Re: Panel recommends 'odometer' tax

CitizenOpinionated — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:06:07 -0500

One of the primary culprits described in Tangoz's rant, Kay Hagan, has been elected to the U.S. Senate. Hagan did chair the State's budget committee for five years. Lest we forget that when questioned about her position, Hagan stated, "I'll let you know when I get up there." I am eagerly awaiting to her Hagan regurgitate what Schumer tells her, since she indebted to him for $20 million. I also eagerly await to see how much backbone she exemplifies in the faces of Reid and men's club, given she voted lock step with Rand and Basnight 99% of the time. Should be fun...

Re: Panel recommends 'odometer' tax

tangoz — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:30:56 -0500

I brought this issue up during the election. The criminal waste of our tax dollars to include robbing of the Trust Fund. Let me say it for everyone to hear "Everyone who voted for a Democrat this year and previous elections is ultimately responsible for the people they elect".

The people on that panel obviously did not include anyone with common sense or smarts. It is called SPENDING LESS on NON-NEEDED Programs. Like the Easley's trips to Europe for example!