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Re: Jones pushes to rename the Navy

acidqueen — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:34:41 -0500

From the same tool that coined the name "Freedom Fries"?

Please--surely he has better things to do with his time.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

UNChockeygirl — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:48:12 -0400

iwannab4change, I don't think he is a Jihadist, but I do think he is more inclined to support Palestinian and Arab positions than Israel, that he is just saying what he knows he has to say to the pro-Israel forces in the democratic party so he can get elected. Google Ali Abunimah and you will find out a lot about his support for the Palestinians.

I also don't think he is a real Christian in spite of his claim that he prays to Jesus every day. He doesn't believe that Jesus is the way to salvation and said so. He doesn't believe in hell. He said that he wouldn't want his girls "punished" with a baby if they had sex out of wedlock.

If you read what he has said about his faith, It almost seems like he has taken his mother's faith in a power greater than ourselves and named it Jesus, as though all gods were the same god. Here's a good link.
http://www.simplysharing.com/assuringlight/obama.htm

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

UNChockeygirl — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:40:45 -0400

nc4hill, There are other instances where people say Obama does things just because he is a politician. Go back and listen to Obama himself on the Compassion Forum where in response to a question about his faith, instead of talking about his faith he said his "entire trajectory" was to get democratic politicians into church so they could talk with all those religious people whose votes are affected by their religion. Well he's got us talking about religion all right! LOL

Google Ali Abunimah, one of Obama's Palestinian-American buddies who has known him for a long time in Chicago. He was not surprised by Obama's changing from pro-palestinian to pro-Israel: "He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power. Palestinian-Americans are in the same position as civil libertarians who watched with dismay as Obama voted to reauthorize the USA Patriot Act, or immigrant rights advocates who were horrified as he voted in favor of a Republican bill to authorize the construction of a 700-mile fence on the border with Mexico."

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

nc4hill — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:19:35 -0400

Saw clip of Wright on Bill Moyers, what a disaster. It was like: "Clean up in Aisle 6."
Remember Goolsbee telling the Canadain gov't that Obama's tough talk was just political posturing? Remember his top foreign policy advisor Samantha Powers saying Obama's withdrawal plans fro Iraq are just campaign rhetoric?

Well, here's what Wright had to say:

"He's a politician and I'm a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician and I say what I have to say as a pastor, those are two different worlds. I do what I do, he does what politicians do so what happened in Philadelphia, where he had to respond to the sound bites, he responded as a politician."

I don't know of a bigger slam against Barack Obama, considering the entire message and rationale of his candidacy, than to call him just "a politician" doing what "a politician" does. The implication, of course, is that any criticisms of Wright that Obama may have expressed in his speech, oh he didn't really mean them, he was just doing what politicians do. In other words: he's no better than all the rest of them. That his big speech on race was just a clever distraction from the real issue: judgment.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:31:13 -0400

Investigations have shown that Obama's father and stepfather were devout Islamics. Both faithfully practiced their religion. His stepfather, who had a much greater impact on Obama's upbringing, was a radical Wahabbi Muslim. Obama's mother married Lolo Soetoro, a Wahabbi extremist who lived in Indonesia. When Obama's mother moved to Indonesia - before she married her second Muslim husband - she enrolled her son at St. Francis Assisi Catholic School. He was enrolled as a Muslim because he was a Muslim.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:28:35 -0400

If Barack is given the chance, and being a "jihadist" is cool to this society and will fetch votes for political hackery and opportunism, BARACK WILL DECLARE HIMSELF A JIHADIST. Of course, he will not show that as part of his snake charming and snake oil hoodwinking.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:23:55 -0400

If Obama cannot answer all these racial and terrorist undertones levelled against him, then, BARACK cannot and will not survive the onslaught of the Repub 527 political attack dogs. Barack will for surely be smothered into so many pieces by these Repub political machines. BARACK, then, COULD NOT WIN, because THERE IS TRUTH IN ALL OF Barack's close association and relationships with Obama fundraiser unrepentant domestic terrorist William "Pentagon, DoJ, NYPD Bomber" Ayers, and with 20-year spiritual advisor and soulmate "God Damn America" preacher Wright(Wrong for America).

It is going to be a SUICIDE PACT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY with Barack as their nominee. They might as well drink koolaid and not face the people.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:49:22 -0400

There's one thread among the DEFECTORS and DISLOYALISTS -- they are all EXTREMIST LIBERALS (like most liberal Barack) that could not accept Hillary's CENTRIST beliefs for the MIDDLECLASS and ALL AMERICANS, Democrats, Republicans, or Independents. That's the very reason HILLARY is PRO-GUNOWNER-RIGHTS, PRO-RELIGION, PRO-LIFE, and STRONG MIDDLECLASS SUPPORTER. HILLARY WILL NOT PANDER TO ANY RACIAL BLACKMAILS.

Concerned North Carolina Tar Heels and all True Americans, let's give HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON the OVERWHELMING SUPPORT SHE AND AMERICA NEED TO COUNTER the looming DANGER from militant extremist elements whose INTENTION is to HURT AMERICA.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

iwannab4change — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:54:41 -0400

NCstreambird

Do think Obama ia a JIHADIST or has those values?

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

iwannab4change — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:41:59 -0400

NCstreambird

I advise you to use judgment. As you know Rush Limbaugh's "operation chaos", Hannity, O’Reilly, Hillary and other nuts in tandem with McCain used ardent,covert, race baiting tactics; then and now. Particularly the ad that is being run in North Carolina. You must let those nuts know you are more intelligent.

First of all, Rev Wright’s name is not on the ballot. Cnn’s political ticker has the entire speech posted by Roland Martin. This will allow you to determine if Rev Wright’s theology advocates separatism.
Secondly, Bill Ayer’s name too is not on the ballot. Sean Hannity has done a pathetic job of linking what was only a statement made years ago to 9/11. His statement from years ago had nothing to do with 9/11.
Thirdly, if sitting on a foundation which is for the betterment of the community equates terrorism, it’s unintelligent. The same applies to living in the same neighborhood, and your children going to school with Ayer’s.
Fourthly, Tony Rezko is the criminal, not Obama; he only bought a house from Rezko.
Finally, I employ you to look at facts, instead of covert, ardent, race baiting and fear mongering.

See Obama for who he is. Truthfully, Senator Clinton has many shady connections too. Republicans don't want Barack; they want Hillary so they kick her lies and corruption to the curb; factor in her negatives and you will see more of the same.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:08:17 -0400

I don't have any problem at all with anyone of the Muslim faith as long as they are NOT EXTREMIST MILITANT RADICAL MUSLIMS INTENT TO KILL OR MAIM US IN THE NAME OF THEIR MISREPRESENTED "ALLAH." Such KILLING or JIHADIST VALUES are NOT OUR TRUE AMERICAN VALUES which respect the LIFE of any or all individuals. We True Americans value LIFE.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:07:27 -0400

“Damning Issues" like Barack's close association and relationships with Obama fundraiser domestic terrorist William "Pentagon, DoJ, NYPD Bomber" Ayers, and with 20-year spiritual advisor and soul mate "God Damn America" preacher Wright (Wrong for America) SIMPLY DISQUALIFIES BARACK as PREZ. It is simply TRUE and exposes Barack's true heart of "militancy" against America and mirrored by Barack's wife Michelle's statement that she is a RECENT proud american for political hackery and opportunism. APPEASEMENT WITH THE ENEMY IS JUST TOO DANGEROUS. Barack's endorser Jimmy boy Carter is NOW negotiating APPEASEMENT with HAMAS extremist militant terrorists.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

pradeepscool — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:53:13 -0400

Please refer to: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/24/nc-republicans-say-the-ad-will-go-on/#more-4930
"In the commercial, a narrator says, “For 20 years, Barack Obama sat in his pew, listening to his pastor,” before a video clip that has become infamous at this point of the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., who was Mr. Obama’s pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ, is played.
The narrator then declares Mr. Obama “too extreme for North Carolina” and attacks Beverly Eaves Perdue, the lieutenant governor, and Richard H. Moore, the state treasurer, for endorsing Mr. Obama. Both are Democrats running for governor."
I just have two questions. One, if Obama is “too extreme for North Carolina”, why isn't he too extreme for the entire nation? What is so redeeming about refusing to disown a pastor who is unpatriotic, anti-semitic, and racist? Second, if North Carolina politicians are being chastised for endorsing Obama, shouldn't the superdelegates endorsing Obama be chastised by the entire nation?

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

iwannab4change — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:36:23 -0400

If you compare, she has a lot to do with support to help build Bush’s Empire by voting for the unjust war in Iraq; along with Bush's endeavor, particularly Iran, and other places on the globe and equating Obama's speech at the DNC of 2004 as dishonest and disingenuous; that doesn’t sound much like love of one’s country. In Obama’s case Barack has sustained Rush Limbaugh's "operation chaos", Hannity, O’Reilly, Hillary and other nuts in tandem with McCain.

By the way other countries around the world are wondering how America can choose Hillary, a proven liar, who is up to her neck in lies and corruption.

Now nuke Iran!

Is this what is called responsibility and what America and the world want a huge LIAR? She lied about Bosnia with Gen Wellesley Clark one of those top brass in agreement,(3x she told the lie AND the same lie was told only in a different version by husband, Bill Clinton; another lie) please don’t forget Ireland!

Republicans don't want Barack; they want Hillary so they kick her lies and corruption to the curb.

Re: Clinton would "responsibly" end war

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:03:05 -0400

BARACK dude is a REAL BIG PROBLEM as his heart and soul is SOLD to his 20-year relationship with his spiritual advisor and soul mate "God Damn America" preacher Wright, and Barack's propensity or closeness with people like Obama fundraiser domestic terrorist William "Pentagon and NYPD Bomber" Ayers. To this date, Obama is still friends with them and still proud of his relationship with them. Barack is a SURE LOSER with these issues, against the Repub 527 extreme rightwing political machines, and Barack is an extremist liberal that no Republicans will ever vote.

The only choice despite her imperfections is HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON -- TOUGH, SEASONED, SAVVY, PRAGMATIC, TAKE-CHARGE and SURVIVOR of extremist rightwing Repub and Ken Starr witch-hunt with $70M of OUR money.