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Re: Price: It's more than a military decision

MalleusMaleficarum — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:54:34 -0500

Obama should not let the military bully him into making a snap judgment to keep us mired down in Afghanistan in perpetuity. Obama is doing the right thing - by seeking a strategy that defines a way out - Americans do not want to be in Afghanistan today - and this time next year - the majority will be aching for a way out. The US military has not been able to stabilize Afghanistan in 8 long years of an expensive war that has cost America a lot in blood, treasure and international standing. Obama must find a way out of the quagmire and that does not mean sending more Blackwater Xe's to infiltrate a nation where they have been active for the past 8 years. America is not a military dictatorship any longer - Obama must rely on diplomacy and multilateral cooperation. Bush tried unilateral military interventions - and lost two major wars. Cleaning up Bush's mess is not a Sunday picnic - and anybody who thinks it should be a rush job with troops and Blackwater must have been living on another planet this past 8 years.

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Re: Price: It's more than a military decision

sligosaw — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:29:25 -0500

He Obama will send what is needed. I am all for sending more undercover people dressed like the locals to infiltrate the enemy maybe even the government. Send more Blackwater XE in to undermine the taliban and capture Ben Laden Besides they can get away with stuff. Play like the other countries. Takes one to know one.

Re: Price: It's more than a military decision

SaintPinehurst — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:57:23 -0500

Uh, David? The President's been "deciding" for almost a year. He's had the Petraeus recommendations for almost three months. On the campaign trail last year, he said 10,000 more troops were needed. Was that a rushed, ill-considered announcement, too, or just another Obama campaign pledge that came with an expiration date?

This President has just about become Emperor Nero II.

Re: Burr headed to Afghanistan

GiggleBox — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:58:58 -0400

Oh classifi. Art Pope's posters only care about state politics. Grow up.

Re: Burr headed to Afghanistan

classifi — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:56:36 -0400

Why isn't this on the front page? It deserves as much scrutiny as Perdue's trip to China. Guess he's got the wrong letter after his name.

Re: Burr headed to Afghanistan

GiggleBox — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:12:10 -0400

Isn't it about time for Karl Rove recruit Burr to be against winning in Afghanistan since that guy born in Kenya most Americans voted for wants to?

I'm just saying.

Can't wait for the report from the ground, Dick, or nearest ATM you happen to send Brooke to, you Wall Street Bailout supporter that hates socialism.

Burr disappoints Citizen Opinionated

Gosh — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:09:41 -0400

Chirp Chirp

What does that even mean? When you spew nonsense yet again and nobody responds you think you win?

Can you even find a position with both hands and stick with it? Read your posts in this thread.

Read them.

You claim waterboarding isn't torture, before conceding it is. You claim nobody over your age thinks it is, before you realize you're horribly wrong and backtrack. Then you claim, well I don't care what Burr and McCain think, I'm sticking to my guns, which you then reject in the same post because you no longer condone waterboarding.

The chirp, chirp is the sound of you kicking your own behind by opening your mouth in the first place. No response needed when you've already admitted you're an idiot that will say anything and lost the debate you started.

Whatever your position du jour is, Burr opposes it. And this thread is about Burr, not you.

Re: Burr: Mistake to release memos

CitizenOpinionated — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:02:28 -0400

Chirp Chirp

Re: What Liberals Don't Understand

domewatcher — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:10:34 -0400

"What Liberals don't understand?"

They just cannot understand that even though daddy and granddaddy left them all that money, other people have to work for a living. They just can't understand the old concept of those who do not work do not get to share in the fruits of other's labor. I believe this concept may be found in the Bible or either the Carolina Journal.....or either the Weekly Auto Trader.

I know it is a hard concept to understand but we must try and educate the liberals. There are rich people. And there are poor people. And, just maybe, there are some in the middle. Maybe.

What Liberals Don't Understand

CitizenOpinionated — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:00:31 -0400

Gosh -

Firstly , I did not say I necessarily agreed with water boarding as I stated.

The liberals in this country are up in arms about this “torture” called water boarding. There are many angles to look at this issue, the least of which can be the emotional perspective of left.

Meet Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the September 11 “mastermind” and the “victim.” Seriously read this article.

“At a hearing held there released in March 2007, Mr. Mohammed took full credit for the 9/11 attacks and a number of other plots. He also asserted that he had personally decapitated Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. The scope of his confessions led some human-rights advocates to wonder if they reflected the effect of his captivity and harsh interrogation. Other intelligence experts wondered if he were claiming so much to provide cover for former colleagues who might have been involved.”

“A number of other plots.”

This segment of the quote is very important in understanding the importance of the use of enhanced interrogation techniques.

The other plots referenced is a “second wave of attacks” in Los Angles.

*Please note that this PDF is from the redacted unclassified memo from the CIA.

The CIA resorted to “water boarding” in order to obtain information concerning this quote by Mohammed.

“Soon you will find out.”

The use of water boarding thwarted an attack and saved 93 American lives. Thus, is it the liberals’ position that water boarding to save American lives is not worth it when it comes to Mohammed, a very dangerous man?

Mohammed is not protected under American law nor really should be under the Geneva Convention, a bit outdated in this instance. Why are the liberals making such anti-American claims?

If the Republicans would approach the argument in this manner, it is clear that the liberals are endorsing anti-American sentiments with their emotional propaganda.

While, I do not necessarily agree with water boarding, but it is the governments’ mandate to do what it must to protect the lives of Americans. Whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, it is your civic obligation to indulge in this notion.

Mohammed should face death in order to retrieve information that will save Americans . It is a sad facet of the world we live in, but remember what Mohammed did to Daniel Pearl. < That is what I call torture!

Remember - “tooth for a tooth and an eye for eye” is the mentality of a Muslim extremist.

Mohammed did not care if he died, why, honestly, do the liberals?

Yet, he is still survived.

We must wake up and face reality.

The facts speak louder than words and I hope this encourages you to help educate to liberal masses.

America is rattled by this controversy amidst the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. With North Korea, Iran, Russia, Venezuela and Cuba getting the “Presidential treatment” and a Department Homeland Security of Napolitano’s capabilities, Americans have legitimate concerns in their fear.

In case you missed it yesterday, the White House decided to take a new photo of Air Force One being accompanied by an F-16 over New York City. Yet they were left scratching their head as to why mayhem ensued and people evacuated building.

We must wonder about this Administration sometimes.

The only social uprising of fear in this country thus far has been caused directly by the White House. At some point America will have to get rid of its “hip” impression of Obama.

“Facts over emotion, logic over sensation. “

No matter what Burr says.... (hilarious)

Gosh — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:11:43 -0400

No matter what Burr says you are nothing but slanted...grow up and at least be objective once in a while.

Facts are facts. There's no "fair and balanced" discussion of alternative views.

You are just shameless, and I can't imagine hiring a better straw man.

Waterboarding is torture. Your Senator says so. Your Presidential nominee says so. History says so.

Yet, you giggle and LOL and regurgitate something you heard on AM radio like you alone found a new version of reality before telling everyone else to grow up.

Don't ever change.

Re: Burr: Mistake to release memos

CitizenOpinionated — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:48:01 -0400

He is a politician, firstly, and endured torture of his own, secondly, so it is his agenda to speak out against the issue. The victim ("terrorist" pre-Obama Administration) survived 183 times of water boarding and the information was useful.

http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/articles/index.cfm?id=22464&section=Opinion

I do not necessarily agree with water boarding, but why do you not care about saving American lives? We are talking about real humans unlike late term abortions, the reason your blogging friends are attacking Burr on the other page.

No matter what Burr says you are nothing but slanted...grow up and at least be objective once in a while.

Re: Burr: "Shocked" by torture

Gosh — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:18:22 -0400

Gosh - Do you consider waterboarding torture, honestly?

If you are then you are nothing but a pansy - it is only this generation that finds fault with this...

Unless you claim the Spanish Inquisition as your generation, then you're nothing but a revisionist child.

Here's that young pup Sen. John McCain on waterboarding.

"One is too much. Waterboarding is torture, period. I can ensure you that once enough physical pain is inflicted on someone, they will tell that interrogator whatever they think they want to hear. And most importantly, it serves as a great propaganda tool for those who recruit people to fight against us."

Re: Burr: Mistake to release memos

CitizenOpinionated — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:08:17 -0400

Gosh - Do you consider waterboarding torture, honestly?

If you are then you are nothing but a pansy - it is only this generation that finds fault with this...

During the time that the Geneva Convention was passed - they would have simply laughed at the liberals outcry.

I am pissed about the release of the memos too- it was strictly political in trying to appease the left and it puts our soldiers, my family members, in danger...

Gosh and the rest of the liberals need to grow up - the world is a harsh place and the left's "premise" that we can all just get along is completely false...Muslim verse Western world has been going on since the beginning of the world - do you think that some talking head like Obama will be able to make a difference...NO

Keep pandering to the left -