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Re: Claims Dept: Perdue's No Foolin' ad

pickingperdue — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:57:40 -0500

Ask Sarah Palin! He can see Alaska from his house

Re: Claims dept: McCrory's 'Henry' radio ad

Isaac136 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:43:12 -0400

Mr. Besse, I have to take exception to your taking exception to the analysis of McCrory's response. That that was a pretty good analysis. McCrory's opposition was chiefly to the tipping fees, and to say that he was slam dunk against the entire concept is simply untrue. Further, the analysis Mark did was NOT a reinterpretation of his position and it isn't unsupported.

What's worse though, is Perdue's claim that she stopped garbage from being imported. She did no such thing. Neither did the bill, and neither does the bill. She's trying to make it sound as though she accomplished something that neither candidate or any of the provisions of that bill COULD accomplish. Interstate waste is a matter of commerce, and the law isn't going to allow flow control provisions that prohibit it.

Re: Claims dept: McCrory's 'Henry' radio ad

pickingperdue — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:36:50 -0400

McCrory has flip-flopped here. He cannot handle the truth; he cannot tell the truth; and he cannot recognize the truth. You papers can endorse him all you like, but please be fair and don't let him get by with this lie, too!

Re: Claims dept: McCrory's 'Henry' radio ad

wolfpackalum — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:00:39 -0400

Mr. Besse, I hope that I may assume that you as a former state wide candidate as a democrat is not pressuring you to support someone as corrupt and unfit for the job of governor as Bev Perdue.

Re: Claims dept: McCrory's 'Henry' radio ad

danbesse — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:07:47 -0400

Mark, I have to take strong exception to your analysis of McCrory's response to the landfill ad. His opposition to the bill, as stated to media at the time, was far broader and more absolute than any narrow reference to the tipping fees issue. You're allowing him to do an unsupported late re-interpretation of his stated opposition. Further, you always note the NCLM's opposition to the bill in its original form, and you fail to note that it later withdrew its opposition to an amended form of the bill. McCrory never did, did he? Let's be accurate and objective here. I hope that I may assume that your parent media corporation's endorsement position in this contest (pro-McCrory) is not being permitted to pressure your reporting staff's analysis.

Is he really a playboy?

Isaac136 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:56:44 -0400

Inquiring minds want to know.

Re: Playboy Pat caught lying again

Oliveparker — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:50:30 -0400

Pickingperdue, what world do you live in? Your comments make no sense and I feel as though your attacks on others are some desparate attempt to divert attention from Perdue's false accusations and lack of substance.

Re: Playboy Pat caught lying again

Ger1011 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:05:15 -0400

Since we're regarding leadership from a partisan/democratic viewpoint(Susan Burgess), would discrediting one's leadership from a non-partisan viewpoint carry more weight(Joe Mavretic)?

If McCrory's leadership was a non-factor, I guess that equates Bev's leadership to non-existent.

Pitiful Pandering Divisive Perdue

wwf165 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:29:02 -0400

A real leader would not try to divide this state, and recognize that we all rise and fall together.

This ad speaks volumes about Bev's inability to lead our state out of a major economic crisis. Or any leadership for that matter. But out of touch is exactly what we are all learning is common from Bev Perdue - a person who claims to be from down east, but actually resides in Chapel Hill.

It is sort of like that old tired claim she made about being a coal miner's daughter, but forgetting to add that her dear ole' daddy owned the mine.

Bev ought to know better, and Bev ought to be ashamed. Bev's going to learn on election day that she is the fool.

Democrats for Pat McCrory!

Re: Playboy Pat caught lying again

mountainman — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:31:30 -0400

I can't believe you are harassing concerned 53 about idol worshiping the mayor. Could you answer a simple question for me??? How did Bev become so rich??? Maybe by being a parasite on the back the taxpayers for her whole career.

Re: Playboy Pat caught lying again

pickingperdue — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:41:14 -0400

Concerned 53, I am truly concerned about you. You seem to have some sort of misguided idol worship for your mayor. Obsessions aside, I brought up the country club (how many times must I tell you this) only b/c whiny Playboy Pat was such a poor mouth and had to run a garage band campaign. His "garage band" campaign looks more like his Myers Park Country Club, okay? I think this rationale is clear...are we done with that point now?
I've heard his "difference is leadership" before; maybe he "borrowed" that from Sanford along with the "garage band" campaign idea. Anyway, it's a misnomer for McCrory...just let it go before he looks even worse.
Regarding leadership - his city council has said he is a nonfactor. Can we just admit it and move on?
The "we" is everyone I have heard talking about McCrory
As far as your grading system, you have misspelled exaggeration again (after I have already given you one free pass); how can we trust your grading scale...maybe you could use your hero's "calkalator"

Perdue caught lying again

concerned53 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:04:59 -0400

PP for PickingPerdue:
- you are right that no one cares about country clubs, but I believe you were the one that brought it up as a concern in the first place
- Who's this We stuff, i.e. "we really don't trust Pat"? If it's you, say that it's you and that will be okay.
- Another exageration or lie on your part - I believe that he started using "the difference is leadership" earlier this year. Teacher, I think you just got thrown out of your academic group for not checking your facts. Perhaps an honor code violation as well.
- Regarding leadership - I believe that you are throwing Charlotte's voters under the bus as I think that they have elected him 7 times to lead the city. Obviously he has had some tough stands & made some tough decisions regarding sidewalks (bucking developers to bring neighborhoods together - is that bad?), the arena and the wildly popular light rail. Whether you like his decisions/stands or not, it was leadership. Charlotte's voters could have elected someone else, even Susan Burgess, but for some reason they have not. Please tell me another Mayor of Charlotte that has had more of an impact on the city and the surrounding region than McCrory & why (I am going to grade you again on your facts used!)

Re: Claims Dept: Perdue's No Foolin' ad

pickingperdue — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:42:17 -0400

When you write PP is that Playboy Pat? You know, "the difference is leadership" (the same, tired old cliche that he's used for years)? What we need to focus on here is that McCrory has no leadership. We simply can't have the juvenile mentality of "Palin is hotter in person" in Raleigh. His negative ads are wearing us all down; like the Head On Commercials, his ads are grating, annoying, and offensive. It may help if he would step out from behind RGA and admit he sponsors those ads.
No one cares about the country club status except that Pat whines about having no money and pretends he is running a "garage band" campaign.
It's Pat's constant lies that turn us all off...we really don't trust Pat McCrory!
If you want to see what Pat's economic leadership would look like, look in your rearview mirror.
PS Please pardon the frat boy status reference at Catawba; clearly, Pat would never have gotten into an academic group...sorry!

Re: Perdue caught lying again

concerned53 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:34:31 -0400

Wow Isaac, not calling Beverly a reformer! While I don't expect it, there might still be hope for your vote. The Mayor will definitely be a reformer and who knows, you might get some of your personal agenda regardless.

Re: Bev caught lying again

concerned53 — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:21:22 -0400

Hey PP, you are sounding more and more like Beverly as you too tend to spat out stuff even if it is not factual. There are no Greek Fraternities at Catawba College and even though he has a self-deprecating personality, he's not exactly a frat boy. As a teacher, you would give a child an F that did as poor a job of fact checking as you do (Remember to footnote).

And I loved how you complained about the Mayor's $500k house and country club membership until you got busted about Beverly's $1.8 million home in Chapel Hill and her membership at Chapel Hill CC. Heck, you ought to check to see if your democratic leader that cares so much about the middle class actually has more than one house or club membership. And I am glad that this middle class leader of yours can lend her own campaign about $1 million. I wonder how she expects to get paid back. Probably from the unions that she is in bed with.

And since you seem to know Beverly so well given that you have seen her several times over the past couple of weeks in Charlotte, how about asking her to share with us her travel records over the past 8 years. Is she scared that her wasteful junkets will cause her to get crucified the same way Mary and Mike have been?