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Re: Fetzer: I'd so kiss Jesse Helms on the mouth

GiggleBox — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:35:24 -0500

Crazy dude. I'm so with you. I voted for Jesse twice before I grew up and read a book. But, this thread is about the NCGOP hypocrisy of Tom Fetzer blaming Jim Hunt for the sun showing it's face every day.

Believe it or not, I split my ticket, but "Tom Fetzer" couldn't make change for Governor Hunt if he was given a dollar for a penny whistle.

You know I'm right CD. But I so appreciate your passion. You're rare.

I'd quote you out of context if I didn't have so much respect for you and occasionally agree.

Re: Fetzer: I'd so kiss Jesse Helms on the mouth

cdtew — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:51:08 -0500

You see, I agree that Jesse Helms had segregationist views at one time. Unfortunately, that's not what you said GoshBox. You trotted out the old wives' tales about flyers printed by Jesse Helms' campaign for misdirection of black folks, and what not.

Things like that did happen, but guess what? No one has ever connected those to any member of Helms' campaign, only to small local groups of "concerned citizens" who overstepped their bounds.

So, before you start slinging mud at Ol' Jesse, then you'd better make sure the mud you're slinging is real.

Take the Democratic party out of the equation, and I guess I'd probably number Jim Hunt in the pantheon of NC greats. However, his failure to control his party as governor (the nominal party head), and his endorsements of Basnight and Rand throughout the years make him less respectable.

Besides, "the best thing to happen to North Carolina"? Really? So not Zebulon Vance? Thomas Wolfe? Nathaniel Macon? Charles Aycock? O. Max Gardner? Willie Mangum? Even on the liberal side, the president of my alma mater, Frank Porter Graham? William Friday? Michael Jordan? Dean Smith? Roy Williams? Jim Valvano? Even Coach K? W.J. Cash?

Jim Hunt was good, but not great. You're seriously putting "Smart Start" on the same level as leading this state to national prosperity after Reconstruction? As putting this state on a path to be an economic and industrial powerhouse? As putting North Carolina culturally on the map?

Maybe its just me, since I'm a Jim Holshouser kind of man.

Re: Fetzer: I'd so kiss Jesse Helms on the mouth

GiggleBox — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:15:55 -0500

I remember those same things, and Jesse Helms did none of them. Get your memory straight.

You're right. He never apologized for his segregationist views, but he let Bono buy him a vegetable plate at Morrisons over the "AIDS thing."

You can read as well as me. And if you really remember those times, you'd know Tom Fetzer would not be NCGOP Chair if the real Jesse was still kicking.

Jesse was a horrible man that would damn you and Tom Fetzer to hell as soon as look at you. At least until he got old and started making out with Bono for continued relevance. I'm sorry Fetzer is wrong about attacking Jim Hunt, but when you bring up the Yang of this state, the Yin reappears.

Jim Hunt was the best thing to ever happen to North Carolina. Helms the worst. And the entire irony of a not gay man like Fetzer taking charge of the party makes me sleep well at night, but Jesse turn in his grave.

Re: Fetzer: corruption began in '77

cdtew — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:43:30 -0500

GoshBox, name me one instance of Republican public corruption since the end of Reconstruction that didn't involve a Democrat Speaker attempting to gain control of the House.

There aren't any. You have to be in power to be corrupt. I remember those same things, and Jesse Helms did none of them. Get your memory straight.

Re: Fetzer: corruption began in '77

kttechwriter — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:21:20 -0500

Jim Hunt, a good man? Now that's just plain funny. We suffered under him for 16 long years. Too long.

Fetzer is right and this has nothing to do with any homosexual/gay issues. What is with you people?

Re: Fetzer: corruption began in my mind

GiggleBox — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:23:12 -0500

I'm old enough to remember the Jesse Helms telephone posts in African American neighborhoods about election day being moved to Wednesday, and his "newsletters" about "Sweet" Jim Hunt being soft with his "pretty mouth" about helpin' chil'ren while Helms went on the Senate floor and said "with the exception of Ryan White, every American that has AIDS got so through an illegal and immoral act," then proceeded to filibuster medical research by reading the Bible while Americans died for over a decade, so Tom "not gay" Fetzer can sit on a turnip and spin.

Hard.

I will never forget the corruption of where Tom's NCGOP party came from, much less where it's apparently headed... Tom Fetzer's toilet. What a jerk for attacking a good man like Jim Hunt. APOLOGIZE TOM FETZER.

At least Jesse had the decency to apologize on his death bed. Look around Tom Fetzer, the sheet around your neck does not a hood make anymore. That's over.

Make a new idea nowhere man.

Sitting in your nowhere land.

Making plans for no body.

Re: Fetzer: corruption began in the Castro District

ThomasPaine — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:13:50 -0500

It certainly is a Gay Ole Party* with Fetzer leading the train, isn't it?

bah

GiggleBox — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:29:49 -0500

Re: NCGOP brings in Hoffman, NY candidate

GiggleBox — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:47:19 -0500

The wackier and more "consevative" the GOP gets, the less likely it is to see control of any key NC offices any time soon.

See Charlotte election returns for details.

P.S.

The N.C. Republican Party has long been a conservative party associated with the late Jesse Helms, and Fetzer said...

Jesse would have been the first one forwarding the email about Fetzer being gay had he been alive and still kicking the crazy.

Re: NCGOP brings in Hoffman, NY candidate

Jedsped — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:47:45 -0500

Wow. I read this and my first thought was: "Gee, the GOP is really getting smart. They're doing just what they need to do to take control of things."
Not really.
I've been voting in Tar Heels elections for 23 years. The last thing the party needs to do is push moderates out the door. It's moderates that make the difference in the elections. The money that gets spent, the media rhetoric, the courtship of various blocs all take a backseat to voting booth decisions by independent-minded, mostly centrist, moderate voters.
The wackier and more "consevative" the GOP gets, the less likely it is to see control of any key NC offices any time soon.

Charlotte

James_Protzman — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:45:08 -0500

The truth is, McCrory did his best to make Charlotte seem like part of another country. Pat-lite Lassiter would have been even worse.

Re: NCGOP brings in Hoffman, NY candidate

GiggleBox — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:47:53 -0500

A "NY conservative" is a liberal here. Brad Miller is too conservative to win a GOP nomination north of the Virginia border. What a joke.

Re: Fetzer: Elections bode well for GOP

GiggleBox — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:43:29 -0500

State GOP Chairman Tom Fetzer said Tuesday's election results are good news for Republicans.

As long as they keep pretending Charlotte is part of another country.

Democratic sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

Re: NCGOP brings in Hoffman, NY candidate

ConMax — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:32 -0500

Good Grief! Has [Tom is not Gay] lost his cotton picking mind like Glenn Beck or simply so stupid to think that Hoffman is the next " Joe The Plumber" on Shore Leave........

We can only hope

James_Protzman — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:55:19 -0500

We can only hope that Tom "who-is-not-gay" Fetzer wants to remake the NCGOP in the spirit of the national Glenn Beck Sarah Palin party. In the wake of Art Pope's destruction of Richard Morgan, I say "Let the purge continue!"