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Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

ryantech — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:06:22 -0400

The day anyone researches the truth it will appear like the sun in a clear day. you are allowing yourselves to be pawns for the neo-conservatives dateing. he seems to be trying to justify something that he knows is unjustifiable.

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

Hanna3000 — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:29:29 -0400

The claim that Islam calls to kill infidels, Christians, Jews and other non Muslims is very easy to defeat. For the past 1400 years minorities of other religions have lived amongst Muslims in peace and harmony (up until western countries mangled in the affaires of the Middle East causing rifts and animosities) read the honest history it will uncover the lies of propaganda- motivated movies and media. Islam is continuing to spread in spite of all these lies, it is by far the fastest growing religion in the world and in the west. Why do you think this is? The day anyone researches the truth it will appear like the sun in a clear day.

Domewatcher, I cry Uncle!

Isaac136 — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:25:49 -0400

But to get me through the stretch between C and E attendance at High Mass, I'll pass on the Carolina Journal and settle for an extra capsule of fish oil.

DVD's, newspapers, and religion

domewatcher — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:40:40 -0400

"You must be one of those folks who needs a little extra help when it comes to plotlines in a movie and fancy words in a text. This kinda 'splains a lot of your commentary!"

I most certainly am not! The plotlines in the movies I watch are easy for a man of my intelligence to follow.....I just pull for whatever side John Wayne is on. I believe this is pretty good advice for anyone seeking guidance in today's troubled world! (Or either read the Carolina Journal. Or either take a zinc supplement.)

As far as fancy words in a text..........well, if I can handle a big word like "ryanteaguebeckwith" then it is oblivious that I am highly educated.

Discussions of religion and newspapers and politics and Rielle are enough to give you a headache. If you are having trouble with your religion you might consider joining us Presbyterians. We don't ever talk about religion outside the church house and really don't talk too much about it inside either. All we ask is that our members try to act like they are doing well financially so that others might think we are high class Episcopalians.

Peace and love..... and hope, growth and opportunity.

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

scharrison — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:26 -0400

"This thread is in serious danger of running off the rails into offensive territory. Let's all play nice, shall we?"

You guys send out 160,000 DVDs designed to incite fear and hatred against those of the Islamic faith, but when I make a mildly humorous reference to Pentecostals we're getting into "offensive territory"?

Something about motes and beams comes to mind, but the amnesia is still plaguing me.

Greensboro paper opts out

jrosinia — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:44:14 -0400

From the "News and Record" editor's blog :

We did not distribute it. I was not involved in the decision; it was an advertising call, in keeping with advertising policies.

I asked our publisher about it. He said it was divisive and plays on people's fears and served no educational purpose. The revenue it would have brought in was not a motivator.

As I've said on other occasions about news decisions, just because you can publish doesn't mean you should.

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

Isaac136 — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:43:47 -0400

Najih, ya dingaling. I was (as the subject line of my comment suggested) addressing my remarks to Domewatcher.

Pay attention.

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

jrosinia — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:42 -0400

Just canceled my subscription and it felt good to do so. I only wish I could have done so this weekend but this gave me the chance to explain to the woman who answered my call why I was doing so.

Also emailed John Drescher to express my disappointment in the decision to distribute this. I wonder if anybody there previewed this before grabbing the check from Clarion. After I viewed the DVD, I felt that the News and Disturber earned that nickname. It is a blatant exercise in fear mongering.

Yes, I believe the threat of radical Islam is real, as is the threat from the radical fringe of any religious or political group. But the movie's frequent use of images of radicals burning the US flag would suggest that every attack - whether in London or Madrid or the Besian school siege - was an attack on the US.

And the distribution of the DVD in battleground states clearly shows that the Clarion Fund's goals are political - not educational.

Want to be really afraid? Check out the 5 star reviews on Amazon, many of which are variations on this excerpt from one: "Religion of Peace-GIVE ME A BREAK! That old worn out lie is just that, a complete, total lie. There is nothing about the aims/goals of this false religion that is peaceful. It should be classified as a violent/fanatical "cult", and stop calling it a religion!"

Let's all play nice

ryanteaguebeckwith — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:19:04 -0400

This thread is in serious danger of running off the rails into offensive territory. Let's all play nice, shall we?

Thanks!

— RTB

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

scharrison — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:15:36 -0400

Najih, just follow some simple guidelines:

if it's a horror/monster movie, the group of potential victims needs to split up, so they can be picked off one at a time.

if it's a tear-jerker chick-flick, somebody either needs to get amnesia or cancer. Or both...

as a matter of fact, amnesia works pretty well in almost any genre, even religion. Like...someone who is raised in a rolling-on-the-ground, speaking-in-tongues Pentecostal family, but then they get amnesia and embrace Islam. Or the other way around.

whatever the case, amnesia is the hot ticket.

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

najih — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:37:28 -0400

"You must be one of those folks who needs a little extra help when it comes to plotlines in a movie and fancy words in a text. This kinda 'splains a lot of your commentary!"

Isaac, I don't watch movies (too busy) but you are absolutely correct. Those are fancy words but they aren't mine. Those are your and my God's words.

Suggest that you learn about the essence of Islam and see for yourself. Let me know if you need pointers.

Peace

Dang, domewatcher

Isaac136 — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:51:22 -0400

You must be one of those folks who needs a little extra help when it comes to plotlines in a movie and fancy words in a text. This kinda 'splains a lot of your commentary!

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

najih — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:25:59 -0400

Hanna, very well said to you too. But do not worry! I have a very good news: As these plotters work so hard to destroy the true image of Islam, more Americans than ever before are converting to Islam. God says in his holly book 'Quran':

In Chapter 14 Ibrahim (Abraham) [14:46], verse 46:
"14:46 Mighty indeed were the PLOTS which they made, but their PLOTS were (well) within the sight of Allah, even though they were such as to shake the hills!"

In Chapter An-Nahl (The Bee) [16:127]:
"16:127 And do thou be patient, for thy patience is but from Allah. nor grieve over them: and distress not thyself because of their PLOTS"

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

emily1969 — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:25:05 -0400

I watched it. I do not appreciate this right-wing propaganda being put in this battleground state's newspaper. I find that appalling. I will be canceling my membership today.

Re: N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

scharrison — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:43:13 -0400

"I had to watch it twice before I realized it was not about those fruitcakes over at bluenc."

Aside from the fact that I hate fruitcake (when I was little I defied my mother's warning and ate about a third of an especially rich fruitcake: the result was not very pleasant, to say the least), your insult is borderline heresy and deserving of a fatwa. I'm Googling "Imam" right now to see if I can find a reasonably-priced one that also accepts American Express.

N&O subscribers to receive Islam DVD

ryanteaguebeckwith — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:49:40 -0400

Subscribers of The News & Observer will be receiving a DVD about Islam.

The newspaper will distribute copies of the documentary "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West" on Saturday to 160,000 home subscribers of The N&O and the Durham News. For technical reasons, the DVD will not be included in copies sold at newstands or in street boxes.

The documentary is described as part of a "grassroots effort to involve the public to work against the Radical Islamic threat." It has been criticized by some religious groups as biased and divisive.

The distribution was paid for by the ad agency Newspaper Services of America on behalf of the Clarion Fund, a New York-based advocacy group that funds documentaries and Web sites about Islamic fundamentalism.

The DVD has also been distributed to readers of The New York Times.

Jim McClure, vice president of display advertising for The N&O, said "there was discussion" about whether to accept the advertisement, but the "ultimate decision" was made by publisher Orage Quarles.

"Obviously, we have distributed other product samples, whether it's cereal or toothpaste," he said.

He declined to say how much the agency paid.

Update: On the packaging included with the DVD, it lists other publications across the nation that are distributing it, including The Denver Post, The Miami Herald, the Chronicle of Higher Education, The Wall Street Journal and the Detroit Free Press.