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Re: Miller uses basketball analogy

vtorsiello — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:54:33 -0400

Interesting...but I disagree with Mr. McKnight. I voted for Obama and it had NOTHING to do with Perdue or Moore. To be honest, I didn't know who either one of them supported. And Clinton had the support of the current governor.

Clinton getting more threes? Really? Don't see that at all...so she got a few more counties here. As we all know, counties vary greatly in size so I just don't see that as any sort of reasonable comparison. She lost by double digits...and this game counted big time. And in the end, her loosing NC and winning by such a small margin in Indiana was a foul at a crucial moment in the game.

She will win KY and WV...and Obama will win Oregon. Nothing new or surprising there. She needs money...just loaned her campaign $6M I think. I don't see any way she will become the nominee, of course stanger things have happened.

Re: Miller uses basketball analogy

Proctor — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:04:55 -0400

What she did get was come choice "threes" from the perimeter (more basketball terminology) to help her in the "asissts" category while Sen. Barack Obama was obviously netting the most "points" (Votes). Sen. Clinton was able to carry more than half of North Carolina's 100 counties despite being "outmanned and outwomaned" in the Democratic primary for governor in which Beverly Perdue and Richard Moore were both running statewide in support of Sen. Obama's fine presidential campaign.

You try running for any statewide office, national or state, with the two major candidates for governor in the Democratic primary running all-out in support of your opponent! My view, and I would be glad to debate this sometime, is that there is no more formidable force in statewide N.C. Democratic politics than the next campaign for governor, be this in the form of two or more campaigns for the next gubernatorial nomination head into a Democrtic primary or a single campaign by a Democratic nominee for governor in the general election.

North Carolina has voted only once for U.S. senator (John Edwards, 1998) in the last six senatorial elections and only for two Republicans for governor (Jim Holshouser, 1972, and Jim Martin, 1984 and 1988) since the end of the 19th Century. The most potent operation of the N.C. Democratic Party in statewide campaigning is in the competition for the next governor of North Carolina, and these campaigns by the candidates become even more powerfully politically than the incumbent governor's political organization unless he or she happens to be running for re-election as Mike Easley was in 2004 and Jim Hunt was in 1980 and 1996.

Then in 1984, because outging Gov, Jim Hunt was a candidate for the U.S. Senate, for that one election year, his senatorial campaign was the strongest effort going within the Democratic Party as hopefuls for governor were discover throughout the unusual election year.

Hillary Clinton could not compete against Barack Obama in the most urban counties of the state, where the Obama campaign rolled up huge margins en route to an excellent and impressive 56 per cent share of the vote across the state in the presidential primary. But Sen. Clinton ran very well in th Western Piedmont, in the mountains, in Southeastern N.C., and in the Albemarle in the Northeast. She carried 55 counties by my quick, uncnformed count as of Tuesday night.

So wtihout this formidable political crucible to contend with after this week, there is no reason why Hillary Clinton cannot go into West Virginia and Kentucky with excellent prospects for victory at the polls.

David McKnight

Miller uses basketball analogy

ryanteaguebeckwith — Wed, 07 May 2008 13:59:23 -0400

U.S. Rep. Brad Miller says Hillary Clinton did not get a slam dunk.

The Raleigh Democrat told the Associated Press that Clinton should have scored better in the May 6 primaries in Indiana and North Carolina:

"Senator Clinton did not get out of the night what she needed," said North Carolina Rep. Brad Miller, an undecided superdelegate. "To use a basketball analogy, she traded baskets. And she needed to do much better than that this late in the contest with her down 150 or 160 pledged delegates."

Miller said he's still not ready to make an endorsement, but he'll "probably announce before too much longer."

His district went for Barack Obama, 63 percent.