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Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:13:35 -0400

Obama's campaign online outreach, "Muslim Americans for Obama '08" proposes installing Muslim prayer areas in public places, giving Muslims time off for prayer. Further troubling on this site suggests:
1. A Law against harassment of Muslim women wearing Hijab in public arenas.
2. Institute a Law to allow Muslim Employees to take an hour off from work for Friday Jummah Prayer.
3. Make 2 Eid's (Muslim festivals) National Holidays on Calendars with days off from work.
4. Optional Halal meals in federal building, public schools and colleges.
5. Provide prayer areas suitable for Salah and Jummah, in public and private facilities.
6. Organize a Muslim American group to assist in recommendations for US foreign policy affecting majority Muslim Countries.
That’s why ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS hidden in Afghanistan and quiet rooms of Baghdad & Tehran listen to news of our primary elections with UNADULTERATED GLEE, that we may have a chance of a quasi-MUSLIM PRESIDENT of the United States.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

NCstreambird — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:12:38 -0400

The smartest thing Dem SuperDelegates/Voters should do is to OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON. There's no way Barack will win the 2008 Elections. He might even drag the whole Dem party to defeat with him. There's just too much killer issues Barack has that it would make a lot easier for the Republican 527 political machines to smother Barack into so many pieces. There are 2 big killer issues that will hound Barack. It's Barack’s close association and relationships with Obama fundraiser domestic terrorist William "Pentagon and NYPD Bomber" Ayers, and with 20-year spiritual advisor and soul mate "God Damn America" preacher Wright. Barack is still friends and proud of them. There's no way AMERICA will accept Barack’s propensity with people whose intent is to hurt America. There's a saying: "Tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are." Well, Barack's friends are William "Pentagon/NYPD Bomber" Ayers and preacher Jeremiah "GodDamnAmerica" Wright.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

LadyPDJ — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:44:20 -0400

Race Card? You all are delusional. Obama has tried consistantly to rise above the fray. However, it has been Clinton's Campaign and the GOP that have continually injected race in the race. And, please stop using Rev. Wright as an excuse. Wright told the truth!!!Listen to the entire sermon...

Re: Obama's voting record..read this before voting...

MollyMcGee — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:10:56 -0400

Here is Obama's voting record:

http://creativeyouth.net/realobama.html
...

1/06/05: Obama voted for Bush's Ohio electors. Roll Call 1

1/26/05: Obama voted to confirm Condoleezza Rice for Secretary of
State. Rice was largely responsible for 9/11, the Iraq War, threats
of war against Iran, Syria, Venezuela and other nations, and for the
deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent victims in unnecessary
wars of her making. Roll call 2

2/01/05: Obama was part of a unanimous consent agreement not to
filibuster the nomination of lawless torturer Alberto Gonzales as
chief law enforcement officer of the United States (U.S. Attorney
General). No roll call is available to view but the unanimous
consent is noted in Thomas.loc.gov

2/10/05: Obama voted for an act known by liberals as The Class Action
Extreme UnFairness Act of 2005 (S 5) that makes it much more
difficult, if not impossible, for victims to seek and obtain damages
in class action suits filed against wrongdoers who have harmed
multiple victims. Roll call 9

2/15/05: Obama voted to confirm Michael Chertoff, a proponent of
water-board torture, an individual connected to the financing of 9/11
and the man behind the round-up of thousands of people of Middle-
Eastern descent following 9/11. By confirming him, Obama, in effect,
endorsed terrorist attacks on America, water-board torture and
racism. One consequence of Obama's' vote to confirm Chertoff was the
Katrina disaster. Roll call 10. (In May, 2005, Obama voted to
give Chertoff the authority to waive all laws with no judicial review
and no relief. See below.)

4/21/05: Obama voted to make John "Death Squad" Negroponte the
National Intelligence Director. In Central America, John Negroponte
was connected to death squads that murdered nuns and children in
sizable quantities. He is suspected of instigating death squads
while in Iraq, resulting in the current insurgency. Instead of
calling for Negroponte's prosecution, Obama rewarded him by making
him National Intelligence Director. On 4/17/05, the California
Democratic Party unanimously passed a resolution discussing the death
squads and calling on Senators to reject the nomination of John
Negroponte. Roll call 107

4/21/05: Obama voted for HR 1268, war appropriations in the amount of
approximately $81 billion. Much of this funding went to Blackwater
USA and Halliburton and disappeared. Roll call 109

5/10/05: Obama voted to give the Secretary of Homeland Security the
power to waive all laws (inclusive of murder, kidnapping and rape and
all other heinous crimes) with no judicial review and no relief, and
essentially to eliminate the ability of refugees to seek political
asylum in the United States. This bill was was a combination of two
bills (HR1268/HR418), both of which were harmful to life and
freedom. HR 1268 was an appropriations bill which gave profits to
contractors who benefited from wars. HR 418 presumed to override
Articles I, II and III of the U.S. Constitution. This bill allowed
Chertoff legally to commit any crime he wanted to commit in New
Orleans, and elsewhere, with one result being the Katrina disaster.
It also set up the basis for a Nazi-style national ID Card, similar
to the ones issued by Hitler's Regime. Obama voted for all this in
Roll Call 117

5/24/05: Obama voted for cloture on Priscilla Owen for the 5th
Circuit. Torture-proponent Alberto Gonzales even called Owen extreme
in her right-wing stances. Her record shows that she is anti-
environment, anti-labor, anti-civil rights, anti-human rights, pro-
discrimination and pro-polluter. Activists tried to stop cloture as
the confirmation vote was a sure thing once the Senate voted for
cloture. Roll call 127

6/14/05: Obama further stabbed the women's movement in the back by
voting to confirm Thomas B. Griffith to a lifetime appointment as a
justice on the DC Circuit, a court often used as a stepping stone for
the U.S. Supreme Court. Griffith, who is not licensed to practice
law in Utah (his home state), believes that equal opportunity for
women violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. In
February, 2007, thanks to Obama's backing of Griffith, the DC circuit
has now ruled that Guantanamo detainees have no right to habeas
corpus. Roll call 136

6/23/05: Obama voted for cloture on HR 6, considered by
environmental groups to be a sellout of the environment to the
nuclear, coal and automotive industries. It provides for rewards
for unsafe, pollution-ridden fuel sources and car makers who wanted
to continue making inefficient cars. It also gave Bush the power to
destroy the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge. Roll call 152

6/28/05: Obama voted to pass HR 6, the sellout of the environment to
the nuclear, coal-burning and automotive industries discussed above.
Roll call 158

7/01/05: Obama voted for HR 2419, termed "The Nuclear Bill" by
environmental and peace groups. It provided billions for nuclear
weapons activities, including nuclear bunker buster bombs. It
contains full funding for Yucca Mountain, a threat to food and water
in California, Nevada, Arizona and states across America. Roll call
172

7/20/05: Obama voted to punish countries opposed to the death
penalty. Under Roll Call 196, funds and assistance would no longer
be made available to any country which refused to extradite
individuals to the United States because of a moral objection to the
use, by the United States, of the death penalty. The United States
is essentially alone among Western nations in its use of the death
penalty. S. Amdt 1271 to HR 3057.

7/29/05: Obama voted for the conference report on the Energy Bill
(HR 6), which was a boon to Halliburton and subjected Americans to
the risk of exposure to lethal levels of radiation and mercury
poisoning. Roll call 213

9/15/05: Obama voted to allow the use of low-cost foreign labor, in
violation of labor laws, in New Orleans following Katrina. He
opposed the Dorgan Amendment to the appropriations for science,
state, justice and commerce. The amendment attempted to stop the use
of appropriated funding for low-cost foreign labor, in violation of
labor laws, to rebuild New Orleans. Obama's vote stabbed American
workers in the back and further damaged laborers hurt by the loss of
their homes and businesses in New Orleans. Obama's vote resulted in
the importation of under-paid foreign laborers to displace American
workers. Roll call 232. S Amdt 1665 to HR 2862.

9/26/05 & 9/28/05: Obama failed and refused to place a hold on the
nomination of John Roberts, a supporter of permanent detention of
Americans without trial, and of torture and military tribunals for
Guantanamo detainees. John Roberts's wife worked for Operation
Rescue, an organization that uses extreme measures (including
violence) to oppose women's doctors. John Roberts has questioned the
Constitutionality of the Violence Against Women Act and of the
Endangered Species Act. He has also expressed opposition to equal
pay for women. Roberts was responsible for a plan to disenfranchise
tens of thousands of African-Americans in Florida in 2000. Roberts
was a personal pick of Pat Robertson, a man who has called for the
assassination of the first world leader (of all world leaders,
including our own) to offer aid to the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
In his confirmation hearings, Roberts refused to say whether he would
uphold legislation that overrode a presidential veto. A unanimous
consent agreement was necessary to take Roberts's nomination to the
floor, and Obama could have placed a hold on the nomination but would
not do so despite the opposition of over 80% of the American public
to the Roberts nomination.

10/07/05: Obama voted for HR 2863, which appropriated $50 billion in
new money for war. Roll call 2

10/27/05: Obama voted to confirm Susan Blake Neilson for the Sixth
Circuit. She had a history of being a judicial activist against
plaintiffs in civil rights, employment, personal injury and
government negligence cases and a tendency to dismiss claims that
present triable issues of fact. Both of her state Senators felt she
was so extreme that they blue-slipped her. Roll call 277

10/27/05: Obama voted to slash funding for health care, education
and other programs, such as those to help the uninsured by backing
cloture on HR 3010 and then voted for the bill. Roll calls 275 and
281

11/14/05: Obama voted again for "The Nuclear Bill" in Roll Call 321.
This was the vote on the Conference Report on the Nuclear Bill (HR
2419). As the House had already approved the Conference Report, this
was the last opportunity for anyone in Congress to say "no" to this
disastrous bill which threatened California's water and food supply
and provides billions of dollars for the kind of nuclear weapons
activities violative of international law.

11/15/05: Obama voted for continued war, again. Roll call 326 was
the vote on the Defense Authorization Act (S1042) which kept the war
and war profiteering alive, restricted the right of habeas corpus and
encouraged terrorism. Pursuant to his pattern, Obama voted for this.

12/21/05: Obama confirmed his support for war by voting for the
Conference Report on the Defense Appropriations Act (HR 2863), Roll
call 366, which provided more funding to Halliburton and Blackwater.

2/2/06: Obama voted to extend the USA-PATRIOT's attack on the
Constitution for five weeks to allow Congress time to put together
the support to adopt the renewal of USA-PATRIOT. Roll call 11

2/16/06: Obama voted for cloture on "USA PATRIOT Act Additional
Reauthorizing Amendments Act of 2006," S2271. The act still
contained the most objectionable provisions from 2001 and had a new
provision allowing the government to collect lists of people and kids
suffering from colds and allergies. The renewal still allowed the
government to do all the other really bad stuff it had been doing
under the PATRIOT Act and it could still obtain library records (even
though the public was misled into believing otherwise). Those voting
on the bill knew that it was worse than the original but worked to
deceive the public about how much more freedom had been taken away.
This cloture vote guaranteed passage. Roll call 22

3/1/06: Obama voted to pass S2271, the USA PATRIOT Act Reauthorizing
Amendments Act of 2006, which strengthened and made worse the
original USA-PATRIOT Act. Roll call 25

3/1/06: Obama voted for cloture on the USA-PATRIOT Act (HR 3199),
Conference Report. This was the last real chance to stop the Act.
It was known that there would not be enough votes to stop the act, so
stopping cloture was the most important issue. Obama voted for
this. Roll call 28

3/2/06: Obama voted for the conference report on USA-PATRIOT, itself,
made worse than the original by changes that removed more freedom
from the American people and gave more power to agencies trying to
deprive Americans of their Constitutional Rights and making most of
the most intrusive provisions permanent. This was the last chance to
stop USA-PATRIOT. Roll call 29.

3/27/06: Obama voted to confirm pro-nuclear war profiteer Dennis
Spurgeon as Assistant Secretary of Energy. Spurgeon's appointment
will likely lead to Chernobyls in the U.S. and to more wars. Roll
call 76.

5/2/06: Obama voted for money for more war by voting for cloture on
HR 4939, the emergency funding to Halliburton, Blackwater and other
war profiteers. Roll call 103

5/4/06: Obama, again, voted to adopt HR4939 the emergency funding to
war profiteers. Roll call 112.

5/8/06: Obama didn't care enough about the sick to show up to vote on
the cloture vote on S. 22, AKA the Legalize Medical Murder by Capping
the Malpractice Damages Bill. Roll call 115

5/16/06: Obama voted to confirm Milan D. Smith to the 9th Circuit.
The appointment was part of an Bush's effort to turn the 9th Circuit
from moderate to extreme right wing by adding justices to the Circuit
who would support the Bush Agenda. This directly damaged the chances
of getting a fair trial on the West Coast. Roll call 120

5/25/06: Obama voted against immigrants by backing S 2611, the
Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, which was less fair to
immigrants than the previous system or no bill at all. Roll call 157

5/25/06: Obama voted for cloture on the nomination of Brett M.
Kavanaugh to be a justice on the D.C. Circuit, placing him in line
for a future Supreme Court nomination. The trouble is that he is
another right-wing extremist who will undercut human rights on the
cases he judges. A result of his confirmation is the recent decision
to deny Guantanamo detainees the right of habeas corpus. Roll call
158

5/26/06: Obama again opposed environmentalists in voting for the
cloture on anti-environmentalist Dirk Kempthorne, who was nominated
for Secretary of the Interior. Roll Call 161

6/13/06: Obama voted to commend the armed services for a bombing
that killed innocent people and children and reportedly resulted in
the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a person unlikely ever to have
existed and who was reported killed three times previously. Michael
Berg, whose son was reportedly killed by al-Zarqawi, condemned the
attack and expressed sorrow over the innocent people and children
killed in the bombing that Obama commended. Roll call 168

6/15/06: Obama voted for the conference report on HR 4939, a bill
that gave warmongers more money to continue the killing and massacre
of innocent people in Iraq and allows profiteers to collect more
money for scamming the people of New Orleans. Roll Call 171

6/15/06: Obama again opposed withdrawal of the troops by voting to
table a motion to table a proposed amendment would have required the
withdrawal of US. Armed Forces from Iraq and would have urged the
convening of an Iraq summit (S Amdt 4269 to S Amdt 4265 to S 2766).
The result of Obama's vote is that the reported US death toll is now
over 3000 and the reported civilian death toll is about 700,000.
Families of those who have died in Iraq since 6/15/06 can send their
bills for the funeral expenses to Barack Obama. Roll Call 174

6/19/06: Obama voted to confirm Sandra Segal Ikutu, another opponent
of human rights, to the 9th Circuit. This was part of Bush's
stacking of the 9th Circuit in a seeming effort to turn the 9th
circuit from moderate to right-wing. Roll call 175

6/22/06: Obama voted against withdrawing the troops by opposing the
Kerry Amendment (S Amdt 4442 to S 2766) to the National Defense
Authorization Act. The amendment, which was rejected, would have
brought our troops home, ended the fighting and forced the Iraqi
people to take charge of their security. Roll Call 181

6/22/06: Obama voted for cloture (the last effective chance to stop)
on the National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766), which provided
massive amounts of funding to defense contractors to continue the
killing in Iraq. Roll Call 183

6/22/06: Obama again voted for continued war by voting to pass the
National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766) continued war funding.
Roll Call 186

6/29/06: Obama voted to adopt the United States - Oman Free Trade
Agreement Implementation Act (S 3569), which gave American jobs to
foreign child slave laborers and eliminated environmental
requirements for industries. Roll call 190

8/2/06: Obama voted to use $1.8 billion to build a fence along the
Mexican border to satisfy a group of anti-immigrant racists. Roll
call 220

8/3/06: Obama voted to gut pensions of American workers in voting
for HR4, AKA the Pension Destruction Act. Roll Call 230

9/7/06: Obama voted to give more money to profiteers for more war
(HR 5631). Roll Call 239

9/19/06: Voted for United States-Oman Cut Jobs for American Workers
and Send them to India Trade Implementation Act (HR 5684). This and
similar bills perpetuate the use of child slave labor and
undercutting the environment while sending US jobs to foreign low-
cost labor. Roll Call 250

9/29/06: Obama voted for the conference report on more funding for
war, HR 5631. Roll Call 261

11/16/06: Obama voted for nuclear proliferation in voting to pass HR
5682, a bill to exempt the United States-India Nuclear Proliferation
Act from requirements of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Roll Call 270

12/06/06: Obama voted to confirm pro-war Robert M. Gates to be
Secretary of Defense. Gates is a supporter of Bush's policies of pre-
emptive war and conquest of foreign countries. Roll Call 272

12/07/06: Obama voted for cloture and the confirmation of Andrew Von
Eschenbach to be Commissioner of the FDA. Eschenbach favors
unlabeled use of genetically-modified and cloned food products,
Obama voted for cloture and confirmation. Roll Call 273 and 274

12/8/06: In Roll Calls 275 and 276, Obama voted for cloture and
confirmation of another of Bush's right wing Circuit Court nominees,
Kent A. Jordan. This nomination is part of Bush's plan to pack the
9th Circuit against labor, against the environment, against choice,
against civil rights and civil liberties and in favor of corporate
rule.

1/26/07: Obama voted to elevate Lt. General David Petraeus (one of
the most bloody generals ever and later called by Moveon: General
Betray Us) to be General in Iraq. Roll Call 33

2/15/07: Obama voted to confirm conservative Norman Randy Smith of
Idaho for the 9th Circuit. Roll Call 49

3/15/07: Obama voted to confirm conservative Thomas M. Hardiman for
the 3rd Circuit. Roll Call 95

3/22/07: Obama voted against establishing a Social Security Reserve
fund that couldn't be raided. This was a vote on an amendment to the
budget resolution. The amendment would have established that reserve
fund for Social Security. The purpose of the proposed reserve fund
was to prevent Congress from raiding money paid into Social Security
for other purposes. The author pointed out that an IOU to Social
Security didn't go far enough and that a reserve needed to be set
aside out of the budget to protect those who had paid into Social
Security. Roll Call 89

3/23/08: Obama voted for more war funding (Iraq, Iran, etc.) in the
budget. Roll Call 114

3/28/07: Obama voted for cloture on HR 1591, a bill to finance the
occupation in Iraq for years to come. The bill contained money for
a potential war with Iran. Roll Call 117.

3/29/07: This was the vote to pass HR 1591, a bill to finance the
occupation in Iraq for years to come. The bill contained money for a
potential war with Iran. Roll Call 126

4/16/07: Obama didn't bother to show up to vote for or against
cloture on S372, The Intelligence Authorization Act for 2007. This
Act included occupational & war funding and funding for surveillance
on us. Roll Call 130

4/17/07: Obama didn't bother to show up to vote for or against
cloture on S372 (more funds for occupation, war and surveillance).
Roll Call 131

4/25/07: Obama voted for S 761 (inclusive of HR 2272), a bill that
extensively funded nuclear programs that threaten all life on Earth.
Roll Call 146

4/26/07: Obama voted to approve the conference report on HR 1591
(more occupation and war funding). Roll Call 147

5/9/07: Obama voted to confirm anti-human rights justice Debra Ann
Livingston to the Second Circuit. Roll Call 158

5/17/07: Obama voted for the conference report on the budget (S Con
Res 21), which included lots of funding to continue the occupation in
Iraq. Roll Call 172

6/5/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on an immigration act amendment
that would have dramatically affected the rights of undocumented
workers. Roll Call 182

6/5/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on an immigration act amendment
that would have encouraged employers to give preference to American
workers. Roll Call 183

6/5/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on whether or not registered
voters could be prevented from voting if they did not show up at the
polls with a photo ID. This amendment to the Comprehensive
Immigration Act and the Help America Vote Act could have resulted in
the disenfranchisement and harassment of sizable numbers of
legitimate registered voters. Roll Call 184

6/5/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on whether or not to establish a
commission to review World War II injustices against Americans, Latin
Americans and Jews. Roll Call 185

6/7/07: Obama voted for cloture on S 1348, one of the worst
immigration bills ever proposed. It would have created slave labor
concentration camps for immigrant workers. Roll Call 204

6/28/07: Obama voted for cloture on S 1639, which was the anti-
immigrant legislation S 1348 re-introduced under a new number. Roll
Call 235

7/12/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on a National Defense
Authorization Act amendment (S 2024) which provided false statements
of nuclear activities in Iran and expressed support for a potential
attack on Iran. Roll Call 245

7/17/07: Obama voted for a National Defense Authorization Act
amendment (S 2100) opposing withdrawal from Iraq because it would
lead to a failed state and that a failed state would lead to "massive
humanitarian suffering." Roll Call 248

7/19.07: Obama didn't bother to vote either way on an amendment (S
2351) praising and supporting the work at Guantanamo. Roll Call 259

7/19/07: Obama didn't vote either way regarding the use of a secret
ballot in National Labor Relations Board elections. Roll Call 260

7/20/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on the College Cost Reduction
Act, HR 2669. College is financially out of reach for millions of
middle class American youth. Roll Call 272. He didn't bother to
vote either way on bringing it to the floor on the 17th either. That
was Roll Call 253

7/24/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on S 1642, the Higher Education
Amendments Act of 2007, which included grants and funding for
college. Roll Call 275

7/26/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on S Amdt 2480 (the Graham
Amendment) on the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act,
2008. This Amendment, which passed, ensured the wall along the
border of the United States and Mexico and included other anti-
immigrant measures. Roll Call 278

7/26/07: Obama didn't bother to vote on an amendment to include
funding for the Real ID Act (which gives Michael Chertoff the power
to commit any crime with immunity and provides for Nazi-style
National ID Cards) in the Homeland Security Appropriations Act of
2008. If those who had not voted had done so, there would have been
a tie. Roll Call 279

7/26/07: Obama didn't bother to vote at all on the Department of
Homeland Security Appropriations Act of 2008, HR 2638. This Act
contained funding for anti-immigrant measures, the war, anti-civil
liberties measures, and the war. Roll Call 282

9/6/07: Obama didn't bother to vote either way on another military
appropriations bill, HR 2642. Roll Call 316

9/6/07: Obama didn't bother to vote either way on an amendment that
would have prevented contributions to pro-choice organizations. Roll
Call 320

9/6/07: Obama didn't bother to vote either way on HR 2764, the
Department of State, Foreign Operations and Related Programs
Appropriations Act, 2008, which profited further from funding for war
with Iraq and Afghanistan and operations in Iran. Roll Call 325

9/7/07: Obama didn't bother to vote either way on HR2669, the College
Cost Reduction Act of 2007. Roll Call 326

9/11/07: Obama didn't bother to vote either way on a motion to table
an amendment to the Highway Bill requiring that obsolete bridges be
repaired as a priority. Roll Call 330

9/12/07: Obama voted to table an amendment to provide a system for
better construction and maintenance of America's aging bridge
infrastructure in the Transportation Appropriations Act. Roll Call
334

9/12/07: Instead of supporting the use of Transportation funds for
construction and maintenance of the aging bridge infrastructure, he
voted for using those funds for a baseball field in Billings, Montana
by tabling an amendment to prohibit tho use of transportation and
housing funds for that particular baseball field. The amendment
would also have prioritized arranging housing for Katrina victims.
Roll Call 335

9/20/07: Obama did not bother to vote on a Senate amendment to the
National Defense Authorization Act which condemned a Move-on ad
referring to General Petreaus as "General Betray us." The amendment
was adopted by a vote of 72 to 25 with more than half of the
Democrats (including Clinton) opposing the amendment. Roll Call 344

9/26/07 Obama did not bother to vote on a Senate amendment to the
National Defense Authorization Act condemning Iran. Roll Call 349

9/27007 Obama did not vote either way on further appropriations which
included war. Roll Call 355

10/16/07 Obama did not bother to vote on appropriations to local law
enforcement to make them immigration enforcers. Roll Call 369

10/16/07 Obama did not bother to vote on the Commerce Act which
included funds for anti-immigrant activities. Roll Call 372

10/16/07 Obama did not bother to vote on whether pregnant women,
mothers and infants should receive $1,000,000 that was previously set
aside for a Woodstock Museum. The reassignment of this money to the
pregnant women, mothers, and infants was barely defeated. Roll Call
377

10/23/07 Obama did not bother to vote on requiring Congress to
prioritize health care for children over special interest pork
projects. Roll Call 384

11/01/07: Obama did not bother to vote either way on Children's
Health Insurance (HR 3962). Roll Call 403

12/04/07: Obama did not bother to vote either way on the US-Peru
Free Trade Agreement. Roll Call 413

12/06/07: Obama did not bother to vote either way on a tax bill that
raised the limits of amounts that could be earned in different
brackets. Roll call 415

12/13/07: Obama did not bother to vote either way on a bill that was
purportedly to provide farm relief. Roll Call 428

12/14/07: Obama did not bother to vote either way on the FHA
Modernization Act that purported to help new potential homeowners.
Roll Call 432

12/14/07: Obama did not bother to vote either way on the conference
report on the National Defense Authorization Act, which provided
funding to the current occupation of Iraq, and future wars. Roll
Call 433

12/14/07: Obama did not bother to vote either way on the "Farm,
Nutrition and Bioenergy Act of 2007." Roll Call 434

12/17/07: Obama did not bother to vote either way on cloture on the
FISA Act, which provided for spying on Americans. Roll Call 435

12/18/07: Obama didn't bother to vote either way on HR 2764, the
Department of State, Foreign Operations and Related Programs, which
provided funding for spying on Americans and overt and covert wars.
It was also an anti-immigration bill. Roll Call 436

12/18/07: Obama didn't vote either way on an amendment to create a
transition towards a more limited role in Iraq. Roll Call 438

12/18/07: Obama didn't bother to vote either way on the confirmation
of right wing justice John Daniel Tinder to the Seventh Circuit.
Roll Call 442

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Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

MollyMcGee — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:53:11 -0400

I have another article I just recieved that shows that Obama really can't be taken on his word alone. He continually played a video in PA stating that he doesn't take money from oil companies...well read on...you decide for yourself...

Barack Obama still takes in oil money - Los Angeles Times

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

MollyMcGee — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:42:44 -0400

Spot on on your comments about Howard Dean...
Howard Dean needs to get back in the kitchen and solve the problems for the Democratic Party on the votes from Florida and Michigan.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

Proctor — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:53:21 -0400

This is where the Democratic Party typically gets into difficulty, in this case, demanding that Sen. John McCain personally block the airing of the ad in question by the N.C. Republican Party.

Sen. McCain has issued a clear and unambiguous statement about the ad, and this deserves the respect of the Democratic Party nationally, which should recognize that the Republican presidential candidate is not in a position, nor should not wish to be able, to dictate advertising policy to a state Republican Party.

The Democratic National Committee's strong positions on the issues are to be appreciated, but too often the DNC goes overboard trying to tell everybody else what to do especially in matters of state political discretionary authority and judgment and also the right of state Democrats to compete fairly for their party's nomination for an entire range of federal, state and local offices.

The Democratic national chairman and the Democratic National Committee would do well to emulate the articulate, even-handed, respectful, principled and effective presentation style of North Carolina Democratic chair Jerry Meek, who just Thursday afternoon was interviewed on national television about developments in the Obama-Clinton presidential primary in North Carolina.

Meek, in the interview I saw on Thursday, was fair to both campaigns while also highlighting issues of concern to all Democrats. Meanwhile, the differences he expressed with Republican campaigns and GOP positions were based on his reading and interpretation of the issues as chairman of the N.C. Democratic Party rather than personally impugning the character of opposition candidates.

The DNC would do well to heed Meek's example and not overdo its targeting of Sen. McCain over a matter for which he does not bear full personal or political responsibility.

David P. McKnight

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

jjsmith2 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:52:03 -0400

Moore's ad isn't using the fear of angry black people like the NCGOP's ad does.

It is attacking Perdue's claims to leadership and experience.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

uncgop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:31:03 -0400

Also, since you have defended Moore and Purdue endorsement. Please explain how Moore is not using race baiting in his new ad on this very site.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

uncgop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:29:38 -0400

Fair enough, after you make time for Michelle's thesis make some more time to Clarence Thomas' new book. That might help you understand where I am coming from.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

jjsmith2 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:18:04 -0400

Obviously politics isn't everything it appears to be. But when you are looking at a 1 second clip of an individual scratching his face and some how saying he was flipping the bird then you are stretching.

I have read Barack Obama's books, but I have not had the time to read Michelle Obama's thesis. It is only natural that African-Americans growing up during the civil rights era will have themes of underlying racial tension in their lives. That doesn't make it prejudice.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

uncgop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:13:42 -0400

I have appreciated the fact that you have taken the time to sit down and chit chat about what is objective truth and not. It is your opinion that Obama was just scratching his face. It is my opinion that he was showing the bird. Only Obama knows and of course if he did have the deep down urge to flip the bird, he would never admit to it. The same way he would never admit to playing the race card. In the back of his mind he is fully aware of the unique situation. Obama is a smooth operator and very good at playing to the general public, but as I have been maintaining the entire conversation, politics is never as it seems on the surface. Everything has an underlying motivation and 99% of the time the fear of public disent makes politicians actions not really depict who they truly are. Read his book or Michelle's book for that matter and you will notice underlying racial prejudices in their own lives.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

jjsmith2 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:05:30 -0400

There is objective truth and then there are opinions. Nothing you have said so far is objective truth.

I also guess Barack Obama was playing the race card with those emails that claim he is a muslim and anti-american and everything in between.

This ad by the NC GOP shows one thing, they are scared of Barack Obama.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

uncgop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:02:34 -0400

Many of the things that i have said are truthful, it is just in your opinion that you beg to differ.

Re: Dean says ad could be leadership test

jjsmith2 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:59:25 -0400

and what truth exactly are you attempting to spread? When you make stuff up, it doesn't mean truth.

Dean says ad could be leadership test

estephenson — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:39:05 -0400

National Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean says John McCain should lead his party in protesting the N.C. GOP's latest ad.

In an e-mail to supporters, Dean said if McCain is serious about making sure the ad never runs, he should have no problem making it happen.

"This is a test of leadership for John McCain," Dean said. "If he can't pick up the phone and make members of his own party stop airing a television ad he claims to oppose, how can he lead our country through an economic crisis or the war in Iraq?"

He said McCain should discipline state GOP chairwoman Linda Daves for producing the ad, which links Democratic gubernatorial candidates Beverly Perdue and Richard Moore to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

McCain has called on North Carolina Republicans to pull the ad, but Daves has said she will not bow to national pressure.